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Kerotan said:
DonFerrari said:

Well I did great, but market at that time was a smaller and slower as far as I can tell. So it is even possible that for the first year or two even PS4 was ahead of SNES (can't prove and won't bother on being wrong).

Well you are probably right. If PS4 as a console outsold a handheld in Japan then it probably had more games to their taste.

If Switch by 2020 is still 250 Nintendo will be ripping off customers and making a pretty dolar on it. 200 USD is more likely.

And about the point of kerotan and Switch 2 making less success because it won't be a novelty like Switch... PS2 sold much more than PS1 being just an improvement over the previous without nothing really changing dramatically.

So if Switch 2 can improve on key areas it can sell more than Switch 1 (although we have seem that the systems Nintendo made as just evolution of the previous didn't do that well compared to the predecessor NES->SNES, GB->GBA, DS->3DS, Wii->WiiU).

And he won't own that he was wrong, and based his conclusion on wrong numbers.

And considering how long he have been on this site, to miss out all the threads and news made about X360 passing Wii at the end of the gen.

Better to brag that he at least got some numbers. Next time we discuss with he, maybe he will bring numbers from UK, and use some generic "USA sells like 3 times as much as UK, so this I multiply the sales on UK and get USA".

Of course he won't admit he's wrong but that's nothing new. It's the equivalent of check mate in chess yet he'll still go on. We have nothing left to prove. He gave irrelevant numbers and in the it turns out the Wii came second. Nothing else to say really. 

Your posts don't make any sense and they don't have anything with reality. Just two posts above yours "One user provided tweet from Mat from NPD that he confirmed that X360 sold more than Wii, and for me thats enough that I admit I am wrong". 



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Miyamotoo said:
Kerotan said:

Of course he won't admit he's wrong but that's nothing new. It's the equivalent of check mate in chess yet he'll still go on. We have nothing left to prove. He gave irrelevant numbers and in the it turns out the Wii came second. Nothing else to say really. 

Your posts don't make any sense and they don't have anything with reality. Just two posts above yours "One user provided tweet from Mat from NPD that he confirmed that X360 sold more than Wii, and for me thats enough that I admit I am wrong". 

Glad to see you admit you're wrong. 



twintail said:
LGBTDBZBBQ said:
NDS: 71 weeks

3DS: 77 weeks

GBA: 91 weeks

SWITCH: 97 weeks

PS2: 101 weeks

WII: 104 weeks

PS1: 131 weeks

PSP: 158 weeks

PS4: 239 weeks

PS3: 258 weeks

Faster than Wii/ PS2 is obviously good but really the real race here was always Switch vs handhelds, Will be interesting to see how the pace btw Switch and 3DS/ DS continues.

The_Liquid_Laser said:

Japan is definitely selling 30m+ Switches lifetime.  You see there are basically two types of gamers in Japan: those who prefer the 3DS and those who prefer the Vita.  Both types of gamers are getting a Switch!

 

It is selling slower than the 3DS and that isn't even 25 million yet. DS hit 32 million I believe so that is obviously the goal, but somehow I doubt it gets that far. I think 20 million is realistic or current generation of the Switch

You need to look at the rates a little more closely.  3DS peaked its first year, because it got a price cut its first year.  Switch has not peaked yet.  It's sales are still accelerating, and it hasn't gotten a price cut yet.  Switch is in a far better position than the 3DS.

On top of that count on the top Japanese franchises coming to Switch: Pokemon (obviously), Dragon Quest XI, and eventually a brand new Monster Hunter.  All of these and a bunch of other "Japanese style" games are going to keep pushing Switch sales.  It definitely reach 30m+ in Japan.    



Miyamotoo said:
DonFerrari said: 

And he won't own that he was wrong, and based his conclusion on wrong numbers. And considering how long he have been on this site, to miss out all the threads and news made about X360 passing Wii at the end of the gen.

Better to brag that he at least got some numbers. Next time we discuss with he, maybe he will bring numbers from UK, and use some generic "USA sells like 3 times as much as UK, so this I multiply the sales on UK and get USA".

Did you provided any source like a proof that X360 sold more than Wii? No you didnt, but if you did from start I could admit I am wrong. One user provided tweet from Mat from NPD that he confirmed that X360 sold more than Wii, and for me thats enough that I admit I am wrong. And no, I didnt saw all the threads X360 passing Wii in US or maybe I saw them and forget them. But I remember threads that PS3/360 will sell more than Wii world wide, and those were wrong.

Big difference in threads and reports of X360 HAVING PASSED Wii and PS360 EXPECTED TO PASS Wii.

Bragging? :D  Don't be silly, Its not point about braging, but when you claim something at least gave numbers and sources that supports your claims, Kerotan didnt do neither of those things.

Nope you didn't said you were wrong, you bragged that at least you brought sources (missing the fact that I gave VGC first and foremost as where the numbers were, and is the basis of most discussions on numbers here unless proven wrong, and that is usually for more recent ones) even if your source was America NPD (which isn't official numbers by the way) and then you inferred similar distribution on the region for different systems.

Kerotan said: 

So in your case when you are burdened to prove you provide numbers not relevant to the case at all. Ok Gotcha. 

Saying that Americans numbers are not relevant to US numbers is wrong (because we know that around 90% of those numbers goes for US alone), same like it dont make any sense to arguing who sold more without providing any numbers for comparison or sources like you are doing.

But again, nothing new from you, like always you do similar things when comes to Nintendo, making claims without any arguments or source and very offten being wrong like you already done in this thread.

90% of the sales in Americas going to USA isn't necessarily right, and as show to you on basing on those numbers were in fact wrong, even more when the difference is small and any 1% may change the outcome. PS/Nintendo/MS can be like 85 88 90 of their sales in USA looking at America, and on 10M difference sales not mater, but on 1M changing all.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Kerotan said:
Miyamotoo said:

Your posts don't make any sense and they don't have anything with reality. Just two posts above yours "One user provided tweet from Mat from NPD that he confirmed that X360 sold more than Wii, and for me thats enough that I admit I am wrong". 

Glad to see you admit you're wrong. 

Lol, why I wouldn't? I would admitted much sooner if you or someone else provided official source that X360 sold more than Wii, from start I was asking officall source and on one provided until one person asked Mat from NPD via Twitter.



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DonFerrari said:
Miyamotoo said:

Did you provided any source like a proof that X360 sold more than Wii? No you didnt, but if you did from start I could admit I am wrong. One user provided tweet from Mat from NPD that he confirmed that X360 sold more than Wii, and for me thats enough that I admit I am wrong. And no, I didnt saw all the threads X360 passing Wii in US or maybe I saw them and forget them. But I remember threads that PS3/360 will sell more than Wii world wide, and those were wrong.

Big difference in threads and reports of X360 HAVING PASSED Wii and PS360 EXPECTED TO PASS Wii.

Bragging? :D  Don't be silly, Its not point about braging, but when you claim something at least gave numbers and sources that supports your claims, Kerotan didnt do neither of those things.

Nope you didn't said you were wrong, you bragged that at least you brought sources (missing the fact that I gave VGC first and foremost as where the numbers were, and is the basis of most discussions on numbers here unless proven wrong, and that is usually for more recent ones) even if your source was America NPD (which isn't official numbers by the way) and then you inferred similar distribution on the region for different systems.

Saying that Americans numbers are not relevant to US numbers is wrong (because we know that around 90% of those numbers goes for US alone), same like it dont make any sense to arguing who sold more without providing any numbers for comparison or sources like you are doing.

But again, nothing new from you, like always you do similar things when comes to Nintendo, making claims without any arguments or source and very offten being wrong like you already done in this thread.

90% of the sales in Americas going to USA isn't necessarily right, and as show to you on basing on those numbers were in fact wrong, even more when the difference is small and any 1% may change the outcome. PS/Nintendo/MS can be like 85 88 90 of their sales in USA looking at America, and on 10M difference sales not mater, but on 1M changing all.

That's another very good point. 



Fastest selling home console in japan this generation and fastest selling home console in the US this generation, yet there are people who trying so hard to spin it into negativity.



LGBTDBZBBQ said:
Fastest selling home console in japan this generation and fastest selling home console in the US this generation, yet there are people who trying so hard to spin it into negativity.

Sadly, their will always be that one person, typically the same person, that will downplay it. 



 

wow you guys must live sad lives to still be arguing over this stupid shit



Acevil said:
LGBTDBZBBQ said:
Fastest selling home console in japan this generation and fastest selling home console in the US this generation, yet there are people who trying so hard to spin it into negativity.

Sadly, their will always be that one person, typically the same person, that will downplay it. 

I did my part by reporting the off-topic comments especially the one who started to derail this thread.