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Acevil said:
Oh ya forget to comment, congrats on the fastest selling home console in the history of Japan. Continue the great work.

Holy moses, I thought Wii or PS2 still had it. Congrats Switch.



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DonFerrari said:
Acevil said:
Oh ya forget to comment, congrats on the fastest selling home console in the history of Japan. Continue the great work.

Holy moses, I thought Wii or PS2 still had it. Congrats Switch.

Ya, the wording was recorded history, which includes both of those. However I wonder how SNES did. 



 

Impressive momentum, hopefully it can keep it up! It's pretty much set to fly past Wii sales at this point



StreaK said:
Hate to say this, but why would anyone care about Japan? What on earth do they buy there as far as videogames go anyway? Dating sims and Pokemon??? Gotcha! Oh, and RPG's like FF (not so much anymore like they used to) and DQ.

Japan loves the simplicity of Nintendo games...except Zelda. I'm shocked games like the Zelda's don't do huge numbers there like GTA does here.

Yeah, they should buy FFVIII remaster over and over again to show their intelligence quotient



DonFerrari said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Yeah, you are right.  I was just kidding.

My point is that Japanese gaming is handheld gaming.  I mean, PS4 is big worldwide while Vita is considered niche.  But in Japan the numbers are PS4 = 7.4m and Vita = 5.9m.  Vita is actually not that far behind the PS4 in Japan. (And 3DS = 24.4m)  It's just a handheld gaming culture. 

On top of that I'm sure most PS4 or Wii U owners have a handheld console in their household too.  I'm not sure how much overlap there is, but to be conservative I am only saying 3DS + Vita, and that would still put the Switch at 30m+.

And on gaming ofering for the japanese Vita probably had a lot more than PS4 as well.

I'm not so sure about that, PS4 has Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Monster Hunter, Metal Gear Solid, Tekken, Gran Turismo, Resident Evil, God Eater, Dynasty Warriors, Hot Shots Golf, Street Fighter, Persona, Star Ocean, Tales of, Dragon Ball and soon to be Kingdom Hearts.

Basically all the big Japanese properties not by Nintendo/Level 5 and these were the franchises that pushed PS1/PS2/PSP to ~20 million sales in Japan.



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LGBTDBZBBQ said:
NDS: 71 weeks

3DS: 77 weeks

GBA: 91 weeks

SWITCH: 97 weeks

PS2: 101 weeks

WII: 104 weeks

PS1: 131 weeks

PSP: 158 weeks

PS4: 239 weeks

PS3: 258 weeks

Faster than Wii/ PS2 is obviously good but really the real race here was always Switch vs handhelds, Will be interesting to see how the pace btw Switch and 3DS/ DS continues.

The_Liquid_Laser said:

Japan is definitely selling 30m+ Switches lifetime.  You see there are basically two types of gamers in Japan: those who prefer the 3DS and those who prefer the Vita.  Both types of gamers are getting a Switch!

 

It is selling slower than the 3DS and that isn't even 25 million yet. DS hit 32 million I believe so that is obviously the goal, but somehow I doubt it gets that far. I think 20 million is realistic or current generation of the Switch



twintail said:
LGBTDBZBBQ said:
NDS: 71 weeks

3DS: 77 weeks

GBA: 91 weeks

SWITCH: 97 weeks

PS2: 101 weeks

WII: 104 weeks

PS1: 131 weeks

PSP: 158 weeks

PS4: 239 weeks

PS3: 258 weeks

Faster than Wii/ PS2 is obviously good but really the real race here was always Switch vs handhelds, Will be interesting to see how the pace btw Switch and 3DS/ DS continues.

The_Liquid_Laser said:

Japan is definitely selling 30m+ Switches lifetime.  You see there are basically two types of gamers in Japan: those who prefer the 3DS and those who prefer the Vita.  Both types of gamers are getting a Switch!


It is selling slower than the 3DS and that isn't even 25 million yet. DS hit 32 million I believe so that is obviously the goal, but somehow I doubt it gets that far. I think 20 million is realistic or current generation of the Switch

I have my reservations about Switch catching the DS/3DS as well, but it is still too early to tell.  We still have the next mainline Pokemon game and Animal Crossing, so I think after year 3 will be a good point to draw some more accurate predictions.

 

However 20-25 mil seems like a reasonable guess in my book.  It is likely we will see a Switch 2 being announced in year 4 and dropping in year 5, since eventually they will need to get closer to the PS5.  When that happens, sales will slow as people wait for the new device to drop.



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Shiken said:
twintail said:

Faster than Wii/ PS2 is obviously good but really the real race here was always Switch vs handhelds, Will be interesting to see how the pace btw Switch and 3DS/ DS continues.


It is selling slower than the 3DS and that isn't even 25 million yet. DS hit 32 million I believe so that is obviously the goal, but somehow I doubt it gets that far. I think 20 million is realistic or current generation of the Switch

I have my reservations about Switch catching the DS/3DS as well, but it is still too early to tell.  We still have the next mainline Pokemon game and Animal Crossing, so I think after year 3 will be a good point to draw some more accurate predictions.

 

However 20-25 mil seems like a reasonable guess in my book.  It is likely we will see a Switch 2 being announced in year 4 and dropping in year 5, since eventually they will need to get closer to the PS5.  When that happens, sales will slow as people wait for the new device to drop.

They may do a switch Pro but noway do they do switch 2 so soon. Switch didnt stop ps4 doing good sales and ps5 won't stop switch doing good sales. 



Shiken said:
twintail said:

Faster than Wii/ PS2 is obviously good but really the real race here was always Switch vs handhelds, Will be interesting to see how the pace btw Switch and 3DS/ DS continues.


It is selling slower than the 3DS and that isn't even 25 million yet. DS hit 32 million I believe so that is obviously the goal, but somehow I doubt it gets that far. I think 20 million is realistic or current generation of the Switch

I have my reservations about Switch catching the DS/3DS as well, but it is still too early to tell.  We still have the next mainline Pokemon game and Animal Crossing, so I think after year 3 will be a good point to draw some more accurate predictions.

 

However 20-25 mil seems like a reasonable guess in my book.  It is likely we will see a Switch 2 being announced in year 4 and dropping in year 5, since eventually they will need to get closer to the PS5.  When that happens, sales will slow as people wait for the new device to drop.

The DS is out of reach in my view. It'll be a while before we see another system reach those numbers, maybe the Switch 2 can do it if Nintendo makes it fully backwards compatible and does exactly the same things they're doing with the Switch now, only double down on the marketing and support. But that won't be until waaay down the road, so I digress.

I do think it has a good chance to catch the 3DS. The 3DS is pretty much finished. It's not going to grow much more than where it is now. I'm thinking somewhere around 24.5 million will be its final tally. The Switch can reach that. As I stated in an earlier comment, it may be falling behind the 3DS in Japan right now, but the 3DS peaked very early. If fact, we just passed the 3DS' peak year, it's 2nd year (2012) whereas the Switch's peak years have yet to come. So, I think starting in 2020 is when it'll noticeably start to close the gap with the 3DS and eventually, once it gets close to the end of its cycle, it will overtake the 3DS.

And I highly doubt that we will get Switch 2 in 2022 (Switch's 5th year). Especially if the Switch continues to track well ahead of the 3DS' global sales like it has. The Switch was released in March 2017 and by that point, the 3DS had been on the market for about 6 years. So anything shorter than 6 years for the Switch would be cutting its legs off from underneath and, in my opinion, a big mistake on Nintendo's part.

As far as the PS5 and its potential effect on Switch sales are concerned, I side with Kerotan in that I don't see how one could effect the other. By the time the PS5 comes out, more than likely in late 2020, Nintendo will have made the adjustment, or start doing so by that point, of marketing and selling the Switch as a handheld device that can be played like a console. Right now, they are marketing the Switch primarily as a console you can take on the go like a portable and its price point of $300 has a lot to do with that, I feel. By that point, it will be at either $250, or even $200 if we get a revision of sorts that helps bring it down to that price. From that point onwards, they'll market the Switch as a handheld capable of HD quality games you can play on your TV. All the while, they'll be drawing in more and more of their handheld/portable audience who were waiting for the Switch to get to that handheld price range for them to make the purchase. Plus, there's the Switch Pro/X/i, whichever you prefer, that will fill the niche for those who want stronger, upgraded hardware.

Meanwhile, the PS5 will be launching at probably $400; At most, $500. And at those launch prices, the vast majority of people who will by the system are the early adapters and/or diehard, loyal PlayStation fans who are eager to get the newest system while the mainstream audience will wait for a price cut to a more affordable range and for its library to build and grow over time. Sony and Nintendo will be going for totally different audiences here and one company's performance and success will have little to no effect on the other's.