| zorg1000 said:
Fire Emblem Fates-2.85m |
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zorg1000 said:
Let's look at all these franchises entries on 3DS/Wii U. Yoshi New Island-1.94m Woolly World-1.55m Woolly World 3DS port-under 1m
Kirby Triple Deluxe-2.37m Planet Robobot-1.51m Battle Royale/Rainbow Curse-under 1m
Mario Party Island Tour-2.68m MP10-2.19m Star Rush/Top 100-under 1m
Mario Tennis Open-1.52m Ultra Smash-under 1m
Fire Emblem Awakening-2.24m Fates-2.85m Echoes-under 1m
They are all right there in the same tier. |
Yoshi kind of is filler in terms of sales power, it just feels like much more of a quality product as opposed to Kirby/Tennis/Party which felt rather generic and uninspired.
As for Fire Emblem, as I said I'm not overly familiar with it, though being something a bit different from typical Nintendo fare it should do more for broadening the system's appeal than another entry in the kind of games Switch already has well covered.
zorg1000 said:
Let's look at all these franchises entries on 3DS/Wii U. Yoshi New Island-1.94m Woolly World-1.55m Woolly World 3DS port-under 1m
Kirby Triple Deluxe-2.37m Planet Robobot-1.51m Battle Royale/Rainbow Curse-under 1m
Mario Party Island Tour-2.68m MP10-2.19m Star Rush/Top 100-under 1m
Mario Tennis Open-1.52m Ultra Smash-under 1m
Fire Emblem Awakening-2.24m Fates-2.85m Echoes-under 1m
They are all right there in the same tier. |
Where'd you get these numbers for Awakening & Fates?
And I don't think I would put Mario Party in the same tier as Kirby, Yoshi, and Fire Emblem. Based on Super Mario Party's current sales and trend, it's closer to the A tier titles than the B tiers.
Mario Party is a bit of a Wild Card honestly. I wouldn't put it on the B tiers alongside the others I just mentioned, but I also wouldn't put it up on the same class as the A Tiers.
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| curl-6 said: Yoshi kind of is filler in terms of sales power, it just feels like much more of a quality product as opposed to Kirby/Tennis/Party which felt rather generic and uninspired. As for Fire Emblem, as I said I'm not overly familiar with it, though being something a bit different from typical Nintendo fare it should do more for broadening the system's appeal than another entry in the kind of games Switch already has well covered. |
How much experience do you have with the Kirby series?
ARamdomGamer said:
How much experience do you have with the Kirby series? |
A fair bit. I know it's highly experimental outside of the core Dreamland series. Still, Star Allies didn't feel like a particularly inspired. It was essentially a traditional Kirby game, just in HD. Which is fine and all, and probably what a lot of fans wanted, but not something that really stood as an impressive, standout Switch game. Just my humble opinion of course.
curl-6 said:
Yoshi kind of is filler in terms of sales power, it just feels like much more of a quality product as opposed to Kirby/Tennis/Party which felt rather generic and uninspired. As for Fire Emblem, as I said I'm not overly familiar with it, though being something a bit different from typical Nintendo fare it should do more for broadening the system's appeal than another entry in the kind of games Switch already has well covered. |
How is the jump from Woolly World to Crafted World more significant than the jump from Return to Dreamland to Star Allies or Mario Party 10 to Super Mario Party?
Yes, Fire Emblem is different from your typical in house, colorful Nintendo game but so was Octopath Traveler last year.
When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.
zorg1000 said:
How is the jump from Woolly World to Crafted World more significant than the jump from Return to Dreamland to Star Allies or Mario Party 10 to Super Mario Party? Yes, Fire Emblem is different from your typical in house, colorful Nintendo game but so was Octopath Traveler last year. |
It's less about the jump and more that it just seems like a game with more heart and soul put into it, more stylistic individuality and craftsmanship.
I don't recall ever calling Octopath Traveler filler.
curl-6 said:
A fair bit. I know it's highly experimental outside of the core Dreamland series. Still, Star Allies didn't feel like a particularly inspired. It was essentially a traditional Kirby game, just in HD. Which is fine and all, and probably what a lot of fans wanted, but not something that really stood as an impressive, standout Switch game. Just my humble opinion of course. |
Fair enough, but I'll say that is as much of a traditional title as the rest of the mainline platformers, a similar amount of heart and soul, if not more, that HAL has injected into the series since its beginnings.
I guess if I can put it in a sentence, is that every Kirby game is standout title in the system for the fact of being a Kirby game, mainline games are highly consistent and always surpassing that wow factor and cultivating a lore that the series has never really shied away from and all the spin offs being experimental and highly polished.
PAOerfulone said:
Where'd you get these numbers for Awakening & Fates? And I don't think I would put Mario Party in the same tier as Kirby, Yoshi, and Fire Emblem. Based on Super Mario Party's current sales and trend, it's closer to the A tier titles than the B tiers. |
Mario Party has potential to surpass those other franchises as seen on DS/Wii (Swirch version looking to reach those heights as well) but I was comparing those franchises during last generation on 3DS/Wii U where Mario Party was in the same tier as Yoshi/Kirby/FE/Tennis.
When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.
curl-6 said:
It's less about the jump and more that it just seems like a game with more heart and soul put into it, more stylistic individuality and craftsmanship. I don't recall ever calling Octopath Traveler filler. |
Sure, it has a better art style but looking at the previous Yoshi game by Feel-Good, it is in the same tier in terms of commercial/critical reception as the "filler" titles like Kirby/Tennis/Party.
Maybe I'm remembering wrong, in a previous thread we had an argument over 2018s "filler" titles and I thought Octopath was included.
When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.
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