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Shiken said:
XD84 said:

Do they even possess 12 million?

I would not be suprised if ad revenue had something to do with it.  You have seen what it can do on YouTube before new policies were put in place.

 

The fact that they AGREED to it leads me to believe they might.  It sounds crazy, but stranger thkngs have happened.

If that is the case then they made money off Nintendo and other video game companies. Therefore it is understandable that Nintendo wants a part of the profite.



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Ugh, this was one of my go-to ROM sites, now it is dead because Nintendo is shitty. Basically every other publisher is open to ROM's of 15+ year old games, or at least tolerates them. If Nintendo keeps up this war it will kill older niche games from Nintendo platforms, those have no hope of ever getting ports, showing up in mini consoles, or showing up on Nintendo's online service. There are few surviving physical copies of those niche games, without ROM's they will essentially cease to exist. 

Last edited by shikamaru317 - on 13 November 2018

Well, the games were made by them, they own the rights for the softwares and probably for the engineering .



Yeah, on one hand it sucks that Nintendo isn't making these games available on their newest hardware but they're still within their right to do this. I don't know if other companies will follow suit because they generally aren't as overly protective of their IP as Nintendo. But just for game preservation purposes, I'm sure torrents + VPNs will still outlive any efforts Nintendo has.



I'm not sure if I totally agree with Nintendo's position. I know it's their IP, and they are entitled to protect them, but, is there a way for a user to, nowadays, legally play every Nintendo's game? (I don't own any Nintendo system, so I genuinely don't how Nintendo's ecosystem works)

At the end of the day I cannot really condemn Nintendo's actions, but I feel that this measure is denying younger generations the opportunity to play old gems.



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shikamaru317 said:

Ugh, this was one of my go-to ROM sites, now it is dead because Nintendo is shitty. Basically every other publisher is open to ROM's of 15+ year old games, or at least tolerates them. If Nintendo keeps up this war it will kill older niche games from Nintendo platforms, those have no hope of ever getting ports, showing up in mini consoles, or showing up on Nintendo's online service. There are few surviving physical copies of those niche games, without ROM's they will essentially cease to exist. 

Most people will never get to own a 1961 Ferrari 250 GT California Spider, but I don't think it would go over well if I opened up a car dealership called "Love Stolen Cars".  



Diogo said:
I'm not sure if I totally agree with Nintendo's position. I know it's their IP, and they are entitled to protect them, but, is there a way for a user to, nowadays, legally play every Nintendo's game? (I don't own any Nintendo system, so I genuinely don't how Nintendo's ecosystem works)

At the end of the day I cannot really condemn Nintendo's actions, but I feel that this measure is denying younger generations the opportunity to play old gems.

With or without spending money?  Because, hobbies require investment.  Pat "The NES Punk" Contri completed his NES collection earlier this year.  So, I'm going to say, yeah.  If you're asking if there is a way to play every Nintendo game for free, the answer is of course no.  



The only problem I have with this is that shutting down sites that carry ROMs of old games means that some of those titles won't be available anywhere at all, which is a really unfortunate situation in terms of historical preservation.



Mandalore76 said:
shikamaru317 said:

Ugh, this was one of my go-to ROM sites, now it is dead because Nintendo is shitty. Basically every other publisher is open to ROM's of 15+ year old games, or at least tolerates them. If Nintendo keeps up this war it will kill older niche games from Nintendo platforms, those have no hope of ever getting ports, showing up in mini consoles, or showing up on Nintendo's online service. There are few surviving physical copies of those niche games, without ROM's they will essentially cease to exist. 

Most people will never get to own a 1961 Ferrari 250 GT California Spider, but I don't think it would go over well if I opened up a car dealership called "Love Stolen Cars".  

Really poor analogy. Nobody makes money off of ROM's of 15+ year old out of circulation games, and the publishers lose no money either because those games are no longer available new. Comparing the Emulation of 15+ year old consoles to modern day game piracy just doesn't work. Nintendo just struck a huge blow against game preservation efforts, because they just set a precedent that is causing other ROM sites to close. 



shikamaru317 said:

Ugh, this was one of my go-to ROM sites, now it is dead because Nintendo is shitty. Basically every other publisher is open to ROM's of 15+ year old games, or at least tolerates them. If Nintendo keeps up this war it will kill older niche games from Nintendo platforms, those have no hope of ever getting ports, showing up in mini consoles, or showing up on Nintendo's online service. There are few surviving physical copies of those niche games, without ROM's they will essentially cease to exist. 

Well if everyone else is ok with it, then why not just open a rom site with all old games except ones made by or published by Nintendo?

 

They could even call the rom site What Nintendont Roms.