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Baddman said:
RolStoppable said:

Included: Games, subscriptions.
Excluded: Consoles, accessories.

Do the games for sony MS and Nintendo also include third party revenues?

oops read the question incorrectly.  I'm sure they do.



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Train wreck said:
Baddman said:

Do the games for sony MS and Nintendo also include third party revenues?

oops read the question incorrectly.  I'm sure they do.

I'm just looking  for clarification before making any assumptions



Mar1217 said:
Kerotan said:

Does the 10bn for xbox include things in their gaming division that aren't actually used for gaming? 

Ask them, I guess. I didn't look much into their last financials.

Well a bunch of stuff was included in their gaming section from those financials. And a ton of it had nothing to do with xbox or the revenue that platform brings in. 



I'm surprised at how high Bandai Namco is, they beat Capcom in Q1 and Capcom released MH World that quarter. They are also ahead of Ubisoft for the first 2 quarters, and Far Cry 5 released in Q2 and was the biggest Far Cry launch ever. I'm sure Ubisoft will pass them back by the end of the year though, AC Odyssey is the biggest AC this gen, plus they had Starlink and Just Dance release in the 2nd half of the year.

Also, Take-Two is going to skyrocket by the end of the year. We know that RDR2 made over $725m in the first 3 days and it still has 2 full months of sales coming and the introduction of microtransactions alongside RDR2 Online, and of course ongoing GTA V sales and microtransactions for Q3 and Q4. 

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since the games for MS, Nintendo, and Sony include third-party revenue. Is it, for example, $60 included or just the percentage that goes to Sony, MS or Nintendo?



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Baddman said:
since the games for MS, Nintendo, and Sony include third-party revenue. Is it, for example, $60 included or just the percentage that goes to Sony, MS or Nintendo?

I mean, some of them numbers are estimation, Sony/Nintendo doesn't count digital-only games revenue into their financials. I think there probably going with 1/3 cut rule most people have agreed to.



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Baddman said:
since the games for MS, Nintendo, and Sony include third-party revenue. Is it, for example, $60 included or just the percentage that goes to Sony, MS or Nintendo?

It usually takes into account the estimates for the percentage of a 3rd party game sale that goes to Sony/MS/Nintendo pockets. It's not $60.



Kerotan said:
Mar1217 said:

Ask them, I guess. I didn't look much into their last financials.

Well a bunch of stuff was included in their gaming section from those financials. And a ton of it had nothing to do with xbox or the revenue that platform brings in. 

The report mentions certain companies gaming revenue are estimates, hence the asterix beside Sony and some others,  even though I find these reports interesting and gain a general insight any report that doesn't show or explain the methodology used to make those estimates automatically leaves me with doubts, at least with clear methodology  I have something concrete  that I can  agree or disagree with .



mjk45 said:
Kerotan said:

Well a bunch of stuff was included in their gaming section from those financials. And a ton of it had nothing to do with xbox or the revenue that platform brings in. 

The report mentions certain companies gaming revenue are estimates, hence the asterix beside Sony and some others,  even though I find these reports interesting and gain a general insight any report that doesn't show or explain the methodology used to make those estimates automatically leaves me with doubts, at least with clear methodology  I have something concrete  that I can  agree or disagree with .

^This.



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crissindahouse said:
EricHiggin said:

Top 10 auto manufacturers based on revenue 2017.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/232958/revenue-of-the-leading-car-manufacturers-worldwide/

Mostly mass produced 'garbage'. No Ferrari or Lambo in this list either.

Not sure why you compare videogames with cars 99.9% of people can't afford which is the reason for the low sales but I'm sure even with higher revenue Ferrari or Lamborghini wouldn't be in the list because they are part of  FIAT  Chrysler Automobiles and the Volkswagen Group so that the revenue of them is included in the top 10 at place 7 and 2

BMW is owned by Daimler. BMW is 9th on the list and Daimler is 3rd. BMW has a rev of 111 billion and Ferrari has a rev of 4.0 billion.

The point is when you want to make something of the upmost quality that stands above the rest, it means you have to sacrifice something, and typically that's overall wealth. Ferrari and Take Two (Rockstar) prove you can take more time and create the best while remaining extremely well off.