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JRPGfan said:

How about free medical treatment for people with mental illnesses?

Seriously nothing good comes of people running around, that have mental illnesses and are untreated.
It should be in societies own intrests to get these people treated.

Was just talking to someone at work the other day and they were telling me how he knows someone from the military that gets $6,000 a month tax free from the government because he has PTSD.

They both served in the military, fyi.

Military people should also be able to get great health insurance through the VA.

 

Now of course this is all if they didn't get shafted, slipped through the cracks, or on huge wait list or other horrible service you hear about the VA at times. The point is, for military personal and former military, the help and money is there, it's just whether or not you got shitty luck when trying to get it.

It is a very rare circumstance people get that kind of money a month with PTSD or else everyone in the military can claim it. Usually, you only get money if you are physically wounded. I'm actually related to someone who got hit by a mortar and lived and still didn't get that much.

Like I said in the previous post, we need to automate these combat jobs as much as possible and fast as possible. With the technology we have, there should only be rare circumstances we need a service member out there actually fighting. 

Last edited by Snoopy - on 08 November 2018

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This is surely everything but the gun's fault.



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GhaudePhaede010 said:
This is surely everything but the gun's fault.

be careful to word it like that, someone might remind you in an asinine tone that "guns don't shoot people, people shoot people with guns"! 



For Fuck's Sake, it hasn't even been two weeks since Pittsburgh and we already have another one?!
Enough with the stupid thoughts and prayers.
We need stricter Gun Control NOW!

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Man those guns just keep going off by themselves in America! Like no mentally ill people doing these shootings at all!
Maybe guns do kill people and people don't kill people after all.



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glimmer_of_hope said:
Man those guns just keep going off by themselves in America! Like no mentally ill people doing these shootings at all!
Maybe people who shouldn't have guns in the first place kill people.

Fixed.



LiquorandGunFun said:

he was cleared by mental health "experts" after some calls about domestic violence and the police responded. this was a system failure in kalifornia.

how about some threads every time someone is stabbed in london? or is that not on the propaganda agenda?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/06/london-stabbings-tributes-paid-to-fifth-victim-in-six-days

Dude, find me an incident where a person stabbed 13 people to death in one go, then we can talk.



Hiku said:
glimmer_of_hope said:
Man those guns just keep going off by themselves in America! Like no mentally ill people doing these shootings at all!
Maybe guns do kill people and people don't kill people after all.

There are mental people in every country. And yet every time there's a mass shooting, for some mysterious reason, you can bet your life savings that it happened in USA.

But yeah Let's-Blame-Everything-But-The-Guns, Volume 3869. Can't wait for Volume 3870. Should be some time in 2-3 weeks, right?
Will probably be at a Chuck-E-Cheese.

You know there are countries with much worse gun problems than the US? Central and South America generally have much larger problems with gun related deaths and violence.



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Meanwhile, in my state, the NRA is trying to get mental health requirements dropped for gun ownership.  Three cheers for the NRA.

However, people yelling to "ban all guns" should just stop.  It's not going to happen and it wouldn't be a very good idea, anyway, not unless there is some magic wand they can wave to suddenly remove all 70 million guns from the country.  Concentrate on more realistic measures.

LiquorandGunFun said:

he was cleared by mental health "experts" after some calls about domestic violence and the police responded. this was a system failure in kalifornia.

how about some threads every time someone is stabbed in london? or is that not on the propaganda agenda?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/06/london-stabbings-tributes-paid-to-fifth-victim-in-six-days

"But people get killed with other things!" is such a ridiculous argument.  With that kind of nonsense logic, nuclear bombs and chemical weapons should be legal.