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What stands out the most to you?

Improved VR, Motion Playe... 5 17.24%
 
Backwards Compatability w... 19 65.52%
 
125 GB Discs = able to co... 5 17.24%
 
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Driver capable of reading bigger size disc will probably happen (now if they will chose this, dual layer or just multiple discs will depend on cost in the next 3 years). VR is pretty much a thing that they will have newer and improved version (not bundled). BC is irrelevant for the market anyway,



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I guess on the next generation we can just go back to CDs. The CD will have just a single txt file on it with an encrypted key to download the full game. Currently, physical games are useful only for showing off their covers on Instagram. :)



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I don't believe the disc capacity rumor, though I'd like to see their next approach for game capacity. There will be no doubt that digital games will be a massive focus this next gen, so I believe Sony will keep using the same Blu-ray discs, inevitably increasing the chances for 2 disc games and promoting the convenience for digital games. We'll have to see if their infrastructure will be ready for the increasing demand.

What I'm more interested on is on the backwards compatibility, which is what many PS console owners would like to have. This is crucial for Sony to listen, if that's what they really want to do lately.



Backwards compatibility is surely coming, and maybe PS2 - PS3 emulation. Games will claim to be 4K but most will likely be on the 1440 - 1800p range. They will also be VR compatible, perhaps with some motion controls.

Everything else is too uncertain to even speculate, the console's probably two years away yet.



 

 

 

 

 

Hopefully they bring BC back.

It's be weird buying a new GPU and not being able to play your old games anymore.



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I'm not sure why everyone thinks that VR is going to be "hugely popular" in two years or less when PS5 launches. PS VR sales are actuallly down year on year, and it's only in year 2. Oculus has cancelled the Rift 2 and is focusing on cheaper, self contained solutions. HTC just replaced the Vive with the Vive Pro which costs $1100 for the headset, controllers and sensors.

Even at it's peak, less than 5% of Playstation 4 owners have bought a PSVR. That's not exactly the kind of numbers that would encourage me to incorporate VR-specific integration in my next console, considering it's more likely than not that most PS5 users won't ever use it. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Sony scraps VR entirely with the PS5 and only offers backwards compatibility with the current PSVR headset.



 

Qwark said:
99GB ultra hd blu ray discs seem more likely than 125gb discs. If physical media still exists bij then.

Cd music is still being sold.  Many people can’t download 100gb games.  Physical media in gaming isn’t going anywhere.  Besides more people still buy physical than digital on consoles



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potato_hamster said:
I'm not sure why everyone thinks that VR is going to be "hugely popular" in two years or less when PS5 launches. PS VR sales are actuallly down year on year, and it's only in year 2. Oculus has cancelled the Rift 2 and is focusing on cheaper, self contained solutions. HTC just replaced the Vive with the Vive Pro which costs $1100 for the headset, controllers and sensors.

Even at it's peak, less than 5% of Playstation 4 owners have bought a PSVR. That's not exactly the kind of numbers that would encourage me to incorporate VR-specific integration in my next console, considering it's more likely than not that most PS5 users won't ever use it. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Sony scraps VR entirely with the PS5 and only offers backwards compatibility with the current PSVR headset.

I doubt it will be hugely popular, but I do think it will be something Sony still pursues.  It definitely won't be a large focus, but I have no doubt that they will release an updated VR headset for the PS5.  And while they may not focus on exclusives for it, I think they will pursue more mainstream game having optional support for it.

I wouldn't say sales have dropped.  In mid-Feb, 4 months after launch, it had sold ~915K.  It took it until early June, another 3 1/2 months, to sell another ~100K.  By early Dec, an additional 6 months, it had hit 2M.  Even if you are generous and say that PSVR sold 30% of that ~915K in Jan and early Feb, that means that in 2017, the PS VR sold ~1.37M units.  The PSVR has already sold 1M this year, as of mid-August.  I have little doubt that it can pull off another 900K-1M for the remaining 4 1/2 months, with two of those months being heavy holiday shopping months. That would be an increase of 38%-46%. 

I also doubt that it will stay at 5% of PS4 sales.  Unless you think the PS VR is only going to sell ~6M units total.  Personally, I think it will be closer to 10M.  Of course, the HW sales are only one part of it.  The SW is a much more important part.  From Dec of last year to August of this year, total SW sales for the PSVR rose 80%, from 12.2M to 21.9M.  So for the entire year, they are going to more than double, most likely hitting 30M-40M.  That's nothing to sneeze at. 

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Qwark said:
99GB ultra hd blu ray discs seem more likely than 125gb discs. If physical media still exists bij then.

Cd music is still being sold.  Many people can’t download 100gb games.  Physical media in gaming isn’t going anywhere.  Besides more people still buy physical than digital on consoles

Yea, it amazes me how many people actually think physical media will be gone within the next 5-10 years.  CDs have been around for more than 40 years.  DVDs more than 30 years.  We still have decades worth of physical media.  Sure, digital will edge ever closer to 50%, but until every single stretch of land has high speed internet, 100GB games all being bought digitally just isn't happening.  Hell, I don't live that far off of a major highway, but my only option for high speed internet is through my cell phone provider or expensive satellite internet, the latter not being well suited for online gaming.

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For me the thing that stands out the most in terms of rumours is the backwards compatability... since I'll still have tons of PS4 games to play by the time the PS5 comes out, I'd love to be able to play them all on one console. Could I just keep my PS4 plugged in? Sure I could, but it'd just be taking up extra space and I think it'd be nice to have everything in one place.



Bristow9091 said:
For me the thing that stands out the most in terms of rumours is the backwards compatability... since I'll still have tons of PS4 games to play by the time the PS5 comes out, I'd love to be able to play them all on one console. Could I just keep my PS4 plugged in? Sure I could, but it'd just be taking up extra space and I think it'd be nice to have everything in one place.

PS4 on PS5 will happen.

Sony aren't going to throw away all the current money spending PSN users when PSN is so fundamental to the profit margins of the PS division, which itself is pretty healthy in relation to other avenues within Sony. This is doubly so with MS gearing up and making the Xbox brand far more attractive for consumers.