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stof said:
That's because Germany banned Scientology. They ruled it was a primarily economic based organization. It's not illegal to practice it of course, but the organization itself is prohibited from setting up shop on German soil.

 still good that they gave up



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Man with that cult in texas being shut down(for different reasons but still) this cult should be shut down as well.



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I only watched the first video and I was thinking, who are we to criticize what people should and shouldn't believe. The religion is in my opinion a joke and the all powerful media has made that quite apparent so if that hasn't dissuaded would-be scientologists, then let them be. They have a right to follow any religion they want and this being America we should accept that.

P.S. I saw a person holding up a picket sign saying 23 murders were a result of scientology. They bitch about that when virtually every war boils down to conflict in religion or beliefs. Therefore One could say Christianity is exponentially worse because of the crusades. It's utter bullshit.



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Legend11 said:
I'm no fan of Scientology but I'm also no fan of groups of people that hide behind masks in democracies and throw accusations at a religion, a race of people, or whatever.

accusations that are true.

We wear masks so we dont get lynched by the Co$.

No, you wear masks because your not entirely sure that your morally or legally in the right.

 



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There were around 300 people at the protest here in Melbourne.

Scientology used to be banned in Australia too.

Read this

"Government criticism of the Church of Scientology was begun by a Victorian public servant, Dr Eric Cunningham Dax [13]. Based on the findings of the Anderson Inquiry[14], to which Dax contributed[15], the Church of Scientology was restricted from forming under that name in Australia. The ban in Victoria lasted from 1965 until 1973, in South Australia from 1968 to 1973 and in Western Australia from 1968 until 1972. As a response to the banning of Scientology in WA and SA, Scientology changed its name to the Church of the New Faith, a body incorporated in Adelaide in 1969, and continued to operate in those two states. However, it closed its Spring St office in Melbourne, Victoria.



In Victoria the ban was legislated in the Psychological Practices Act, 1965, which prohibited using an E-meter or teaching Scientology for fee or reward. In the understanding that Scientology was a form of psychology[citation needed], this law required anyone practising psychology to register with the newly established Victorian Psychological Council. However, it exempted any religious denomination recognised by the Australian government under the federal Marriage Act since it used a definition of psychology broad enough to include the counselling traditionally done by priests and ministers of religion. Although similar laws were later passed in Western Australia in 1968 (the Scientology Act) and South Australia (the Scientology (Prohibition) Act, 1968 replaced by the Psychological Practices Act, 1973), the Church remained active in these two States.

In January 1973, the newly elected federal Labor government recognised the Church of Scientology as a religious denomination under the Marriage Act, making it effectively exempt from the provisions of the Victorian Psychological Practices Act. Western Australia had already repealed its Scientology Act in the previous year.

On 25 February 1981, officials of major religions urged repeal of the Victorian Psychological Practices Act, which was subsequently amended by the Psychologists Registration (Scientology) Act, 1982 to remove all references to Scientology[16]. This Act was finally[weasel words] repealed by the Psychologists Registration Act, 1987 [17]. The South Australian Psychological Practices Act has remained in force and has a necessary role in regulating the activities of psychologists and hypnotists in that State. However, neither this Act itself [18] nor the current regulations [19] now contain any reference to Scientology. The Western Australian Scientology Act, 1968 was repealed in 1972, and replaced by a Psychologists Registration Act, 1976 [20] with similar provisions to regulate psychologists.

The Anderson Report's conclusion that Scientology "is not a religion" was finally[weasel words] overturned in 1983 by a High Court of Australia judgment, which allowed the church to claim tax exempt status in Australia. [21] Scientology now enjoys the full rights of any other religion and is practised freely throughout Australia, and the High Court decision, dismissing the earlier judgements, now serves as the current precedent for defining religious groups
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Here is some Controversy here in Australia

 

[edit] Revesby Murder

A Sydney woman diagnosed with a psychiatric illness, was not administered psychiatric drugs prescribed by the hospital because of the beliefs of her Scientologist parents, and instead administered non-standard medicine imported from the United States. Her condition worsened, and her parents became alarmed, finally relenting and administering the prescribed medicine. However, three weeks later, she assaulted them, killing two family members and wounding another."[22] [23] .[24] The mother has since recovered, and the case is still to be heard.[25]

After the incident, Australian Church of Scientology vice-president Cyrus Brooks in Sydney continued to criticise Psychiatry and Psychiatric drugs, while the Australian Medical Association President Dr Rosanna Capolingua, speaking on ABC Radio, said if the girl had had access to appropriate medical treatment it could have "changed the course of her life."[26]

[edit] Queen St Massacre

Main article: Queen Street massacre

In the Queen Street massacre case, the Gunmen, Frank Vitkovic, had been tested by the Church of Scientology two months before he shot a number of people in the Queen St Massacre. [27]. [28] "Vitkovic took a personality test carried out by a Church of Scientology volunteer. The results of the test, the Scientology volunteer believed, made her suspect that he might have hit rock bottom. The voluntary worker, Ms Eleanor Simpson, who had no formal training in psychology, believed Vitkovic was extremely depressed. She could recall only one other personality test having a worse result. She did not refer Vitkovic to a psychiatrist but suggested he enrol in the Ups and Downs in Life course run by the Church."[29]. Forensic psychiatrist Dr Alan Bartholemew presented evidence at the trial concerning Scientology's testing of gunman Frank Vitkovic. Bartholemew indicated that the Scientologist's testing of gunman Frank Vitkovic, though revealing that Vitkovic was suffering a serious mental condition, was not treated effectively. Bartholomew also stated that the test itself may have contributed to Vitkovic's mental state before he shot 8 people in 1988. [30]



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I can't believe anyone actually believes in Scientology. It is so ridiculous especially considering that a SCIENCE FICTION WRITER CREATED IT. He made it up. He once said that if you wanted to get really rich you should start a religion, then he started a religion that ask for you money.

I didn't know until today that they pressure people to sell their house and use their children's college funds. That is despicable.



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stof said:
That's because Germany banned Scientology. They ruled it was a primarily economic based organization. It's not illegal to practice it of course, but the organization itself is prohibited from setting up shop on German soil.

That's an image of the headquarter of the Church of Scientology in Berlin, Germany. As far as I know, Scientology is not officially counted as a religion and the Verfassungsschutz monitors the organisation. But as far as I know it's not banned or something similar. And I see regularly in Berlin some people, selling books from Hubbard.



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If anyone was familiar with the Church's aggressive attacks on its critics, you'd know why Anonymous wears masks. I suggest you read up on the framing of Paulette Cooper and Operation Freakout.

http://home.snafu.de/tilman/krasel/cooper/

Her personal account (much more detailed):

http://www.lermanet.com/paulette-cooper/

It's not about being against their beliefs, but being against their methods. They're some bizarre mixture of a cult and business that suckers in weak minded people, drains them of all their money and turns them against everyone, including their families. That's not even mentioning their ties to criminal activity such as Operation Snow White (infiltrating government agencies to destroy documents) or the mysterious deaths/suicides of its critics. Anonymous isn't trying to destroy them, but rather get rid of their tax exempt status and expose their cult-like tactics.



By the way, here is the german site of the project chanology.



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