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When will an improved switch-hardware be released?

End of 2019, I think so too. 16 25.40%
 
2020! 22 34.92%
 
2021. 11 17.46%
 
Maybe.. (other year or theory) 7 11.11%
 
nintendo will only develo... 4 6.35%
 
see results 3 4.76%
 
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Pemalite on 02 October 2018
RolStoppable said:
zorg1000 said:

They can do both.

2DS/New 3DS

PS4 Slim/Pro

XB1 S/X

That's an incorrect comparison.

PS4 Pro and Xbox One X are high-end models with new price points while the New 3DS models assumed the price points of the models they replaced. New 3DS is more comparable to PS4 Slim and Xbox One S, because they all replaced models that were phased out shortly afterwards.

New 3DS and 2DS has improved internal hardware. Price points be damned, they were successive releases that improved upon the base hardware.


Lonely_Dolphin said:
I think there wont be a smaller version cause Joy-Con consistency, nor will there be a stronger version cause porting consistency/splitting userbase. The revision will just have better battery life, better wifi, more storage, and a bigger screen size so no bezels.

A successor doesn't need to retain Joy-Con functionality.
Just like the 2DS didn't retain the clam-shell design or a 3D display.

trent44 said:
Will Nintendo make Nintendo Switch models with newer and better SOCs? Probably so, but the performance benefit will be marginal to non existent at best, as the focus will be to reduce cost of the total cost of materials (i.e. a 7nm SOC would allow them to put a smaller battery, reduce the entire chassis size, and remove the active cooling).

A 7nm chip would be totally reliant on nVidia... And I doubt they have made any movement in that direction with Tegra.

trent44 said:
Nintendo is not focused on upgrading resolution of their consoles. They are still selling a 240p handheld console in 2018 at reduced costs with a very healthy profit margin on hardware and will continue that focus in the future.

The 3DS isn't 240P. (As in 16:9, progressive.)

trent44 said:

In 2023, the Nintendo Switch will still have a 720p screen and Nintendo will be happy with the low cost and high profit margin and will have multiple SKUs.

The Switch deviates from older platforms in a multitude of ways... The fact that games are capable of exceeding 720P is one of them... So it makes sense if Nintendo opts for a Pascal based Tegra they could include a higher resolution display and take advantage of that fact.

trent44 said:

Nintendo's focus is it leverage its software library to sell its hardware, and to reduce costs of hardware while addressing a wider audience. Focusing on CPU and GPU power and splitting their user base is not where they will expand and Nintendo knows this.

Nintendo can focus on both power and the low-priced segments, they did with the 3DS, 3DS XL, 2DS, 2DS XL.



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HylianSwordsman on 02 October 2018

I could see a few things happening, but what might do Switch the most good is a revision that maximizes each form. A more portable tablet to maximize the advantage of the handheld form, and a more powerful dock to maximize the home console mode. Sell them separately so that people who use one form more than the other can get the upgrade they want. Or perhaps an upgrade that would increase it's form factors even further, like with AR and VR capabilities, so rather than buying a separate headset, you buy a console that can be a home console, a portable console, an AR viewer, or a VR headset. Maybe save that for Switch 2...



collint0101 on 02 October 2018

We'll probably get a switch pro or "new" switch around the same time the next Xbox and PlayStation launch but as for a true next generation leap 2022 at the earliest



VAMatt on 02 October 2018
RolStoppable said:
If Nintendo is smart, never. There's no benefit that could come from a Switch with more processing power that couldn't be achieved by more logical revisions that improve things such as portability and battery life.

I mostly agree.  A smaller form factor and better battery life are the obvious improvements, and ones that don't really fragment the install base.  However, I think they could also make whatever improvements are necessary to allow portable and docked modes that have same performance.  (I believe that's a part battery life, part heat production issue.  I figure that should be solvable without much expense in the near future)




Lonely_Dolphin on 03 October 2018
Pemalite said:
Lonely_Dolphin said:
I think there wont be a smaller version cause Joy-Con consistency, nor will there be a stronger version cause porting consistency/splitting userbase. The revision will just have better battery life, better wifi, more storage, and a bigger screen size so no bezels.

A successor doesn't need to retain Joy-Con functionality.
Just like the 2DS didn't retain the clam-shell design or a 3D display.

So no detatchable controllers? I think that would defeat the purpose of a cheaper model when it forces you to buy an additional controller to play the system docked. Also the Switch is in a different situation from the 3DS. It had a unwanted gimmick that forced Nintendo to massively cut the price early and take losses. They couldn't possibly price cut it again so instead the 2DS was made. The Switch doesn't need a 2DS, it's selling great as is and can have price cuts gradually. 3DS can fill the cheap handheld niche until the Switch's value gets there.



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Wiibaron on 03 October 2018

Better question: When will a video gamer write a proper sentence for a thread title?



Megiddo on 03 October 2018

There's no real reason to do so. The Switch itself in terms in hardware is just fine. And Nintendo fans have always been ones to not care at all about hardware.

The next improved Nintendo hardware will be the Switch successor. The remodels I see in the cards for Switch are the lighter/thinner/smaller variety for people who want a more portable-friendly device.



Pemalite on 03 October 2018
Lonely_Dolphin said:

So no detatchable controllers? I think that would defeat the purpose of a cheaper model when it forces you to buy an additional controller to play the system docked.

If you want cheap... You don't want extra mechanical components to drive up price.
Integrating the controllers into the device would eliminate that entirely... Plus all the duplicated components like the acceleraometers, gyroscopes, haptic feedback, bluetooth, batteries and so on.
Heck, throw out the dock as well.

Lonely_Dolphin said:

Also the Switch is in a different situation from the 3DS. It had a unwanted gimmick that forced Nintendo to massively cut the price early and take losses.

Makes absolutely zero difference. Gimmick or not.

Lonely_Dolphin said:

They couldn't possibly price cut it again so instead the 2DS was made. The Switch doesn't need a 2DS, it's selling great as is and can have price cuts gradually. 3DS can fill the cheap handheld niche until the Switch's value gets there.

And there is a ton of potential cost cutting that can be done to the switch as well.



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Ganoncrotch on 03 October 2018

I would wager around the 19th of June, possibly around tea time GMT



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Miyamotoo on 03 October 2018
Lonely_Dolphin said:
Pemalite said:

A successor doesn't need to retain Joy-Con functionality.
Just like the 2DS didn't retain the clam-shell design or a 3D display.

So no detatchable controllers? I think that would defeat the purpose of a cheaper model when it forces you to buy an additional controller to play the system docked. Also the Switch is in a different situation from the 3DS. It had a unwanted gimmick that forced Nintendo to massively cut the price early and take losses. They couldn't possibly price cut it again so instead the 2DS was made. The Switch doesn't need a 2DS, it's selling great as is and can have price cuts gradually. 3DS can fill the cheap handheld niche until the Switch's value gets there.

Well if your point is to have much cheaper offer of your platform, than probably you will not have Joy Cons and dock functionality for playing, offcourse you will still have regular Switch, and later probably Switch Pro/XL or even Switch TV. 3DS is dying and they will need low price offer on market when 3DS dies, and this would be basicly Switch Mini/Pocket just for handheld play that would effectively replace 3DS price point on market. Dont forget, Switch is $300 while 3DS covers price point from $80 to $200, we can realistically say that Switch will be at around $250 at end of next year, so they well need $150-200 offer on market also, Switch Mini/Pocket would perfectly fit there and would effectively start replacing 3DS price point on market.