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Dr.Vita said:

It's funny how all of the people here are making fun of the op without having any points to contradict what he is saying.

That's because you are telling the truth about the current situation with the Switch and I completely agree with you.

Here is one point.

He states he is only buying two games this year; Pokémon Let's Go and Smash

He then states there are only two games worth getting next year; Luigi's Mansion and Animal Crossing

Pokémon main game comes out next year, so that alone makes his statement bullshit unless he is one of the few people in the world more excited about Let's Go over the next mainline Pokémon.



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Dr.Vita said:

It's funny how all of the people here are making fun of the op without having any points to contradict what he is saying.

That's because you are telling the truth about the current situation with the Switch and I completely agree with you.

Here is one point.

He states he is only buying two games this year; Pokémon Let's Go and Smash

He then states there are only two games worth getting next year; Luigi's Mansion and Animal Crossing

Pokémon main game comes out next year, so that alone makes his statement bullshit unless he is one of the few people in the world more excited about Let's Go over the next mainline Pokémon.

Also, that mentality of " If it's not a AAA Nintendo franchise, then it's not worth playing" gets me right under my skin when we know great quality stuff like Yoshi, Daemon X Machina, SMT, Bayonetta 3, Metroid Prime 4, Fire Emblem, etc ... is coming right alongside them. 

I can understand if he's personally not interested in those titles but introspectively, it's clear we're at the total opposite of what he's suggesting.



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Dr.Vita said:

It's funny how all of the people here are making fun of the op without having any points to contradict what he is saying.

That's because you are telling the truth about the current situation with the Switch and I completely agree with you.M

Funny how you are pointless as well.




Ljink96 said:
jason1637 said:

I am. There are only a handful of interesting games coming out to the switch. If we count the amount of Nintendo games coming this year and compare it to one of the main Wii U years it will be a similar amount of games.

Okay, I don't think that logic is sound. It is not a similar amount of games. Switch software is selling very well, it's getting Wii U ports, on top of new games. I don't see how this can be portrayed in a negative light unless you don't like Nintendo and Japanese gaming which yeah, Switch is mostly focused on. The software that Switch has gotten and is getting blows the Wii U out of the water. 

Wii U didn't get any Final Fantasy games that mattered, no real 3D Sandbox Mario Game, Luigi's Mansion, Animal Crossing, and Switch versions of Wii U games are outselling the Wii U versions. It factually can't be worse than the Wii U. This is a direct in September, Nintendo isn't going to show their whole hand in one direct. The shear amount of games shown in this direct is more than enough to sell tons of software and hardware. Gamefreak's new RPG, Pokemon, Smash, Yoshi, all before the second year is up. 2019 is already shaping up quite well.

If you're a western gaming fan, you probably are not a fan of this direct and in all honesty...you should own a PS4 or Xbox. Switch is not getting most western PS4 and XBox Games. I mean, what do you think would have made the direct better?

When is Switch getting a Final Fantasy game that matters?

As far as the rest of the post, I don't think you can argue success, but criticizing Nintendo for not having a great lineup this year before Smash is a pretty valid complaint. Not sure why he'd use the Wii U as a reference point when we know what is coming. I think I shouldn't expect too much from OP on this though. Nintendo has done things to shore up their first party offerings in 2018.



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outlawauron said:
Ljink96 said:

Okay, I don't think that logic is sound. It is not a similar amount of games. Switch software is selling very well, it's getting Wii U ports, on top of new games. I don't see how this can be portrayed in a negative light unless you don't like Nintendo and Japanese gaming which yeah, Switch is mostly focused on. The software that Switch has gotten and is getting blows the Wii U out of the water. 

Wii U didn't get any Final Fantasy games that mattered, no real 3D Sandbox Mario Game, Luigi's Mansion, Animal Crossing, and Switch versions of Wii U games are outselling the Wii U versions. It factually can't be worse than the Wii U. This is a direct in September, Nintendo isn't going to show their whole hand in one direct. The shear amount of games shown in this direct is more than enough to sell tons of software and hardware. Gamefreak's new RPG, Pokemon, Smash, Yoshi, all before the second year is up. 2019 is already shaping up quite well.

If you're a western gaming fan, you probably are not a fan of this direct and in all honesty...you should own a PS4 or Xbox. Switch is not getting most western PS4 and XBox Games. I mean, what do you think would have made the direct better?

When is Switch getting a Final Fantasy game that matters?

As far as the rest of the post, I don't think you can argue success, but criticizing Nintendo for not having a great lineup this year before Smash is a pretty valid complaint. Not sure why he'd use the Wii U as a reference point when we know what is coming. I think I shouldn't expect too much from OP on this though. Nintendo has done things to shore up their first party offerings in 2018.

Well, it's subjective. There are a ton of people who are excited about the FF games that were announced, FFVII on Nintendo matters to a lot of people. Wii U just got FF1, FFII, and FFIII. That's nothing compared to the games that were announced for Switch yesterday. FF games that were not on Nintendo platforms, and now they are...it matters to a lot of people. Zodiac Age just launched last year on PS4, this means a lot to Nintendo fans who never got these games. And...it isn't going to stop here.

Arguing that it has had a poor lineup is valid, I've said that in numerous posts. But again, that's subjective. Switch software and hardware is keeping up with PS4 even with the poor software support, but obviously a lot of people are engaged in the software on the Switch even if we aren't. Complaints are always valid, it's pushing that as a fact that gets kind of gray especially when we have quantitative data that supports the fact. 

I said earlier in a different post, have your opinion, that's great.  But the fact of the matter is people are buying software on Switch at a rapid pace compared to the Wii U. 



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Considering that there are a lot of games being released and that they are receiving much better 3rd party support I hardly see OP being the case.



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Dr.Vita said:

It's funny how all of the people here are making fun of the op without having any points to contradict what he is saying.

That's because you are telling the truth about the current situation with the Switch and I completely agree with you.

I actually found myself in the rare situation that making any further point is a waste of my time. The thread title is a contradiction in it's self, no need to go any deeper than that.

Nintendo Switch outsold the Wii U's lifetime sales in not even a year, months. Clearly that wasn't because they did nothing different than what they did with the Wii U otherwise, there would be no reason why it failed while Switch succeeded.

You clearly don't own a Wii U and Switch otherwise the difference would be night and day. Heck the Wii and DS's software library is starting to fall short at this point in my opinion (albeit due to no split platforms).

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