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I really don't see a big deal here. The books are set in a fictional world where history of racial migration doesn't have to mirror ours. Why does it bother people so much or "make no sense" for a character's race to be different? It's a different medium so having a new twist on an existing property is more entertaining than seeing the same old thing.

On the opposite spectrum, we have a bunch of people who went crazy over The Ghost in the Shell live action move casting Scarlet Johansson as the main character. I agree that there aren't many lead roles for minorities so including a diverse cast isn't a bad thing. However, I don't believe this was a case of white washing. News flash, the character in the anime has BLUE eyes. When do you see Asians with blue eyes? Of course, you can chalk that up to the shell having blue eyes, but then again, if you went with that reasoning, you could apply that logic to her entire shell's Caucasian appearance. Her ghost may have been Asian, but her shell was off the shelf white (just like the movie). Makes sense.



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HandofPrometheus said:

I'm black and love any representation I can get in the fantasy genre but can I just get an established black character instead? I would love to see an original black witcher or an original black sorceress. Hell if you want you can write them as the "odd man out" and play around with that.

You need to Read Steven Erickson's - Malazan Book of the Fallen.
Its High Fantasy, and features tons of kickass characters (alot of them black).

HBO need to get their hands on that IP, and start makeing that a new tv series, like Game of Throne's was once.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malazan_Book_of_the_Fallen

http://malazan.wikia.com/wiki/Ben_Adaephon_Delat
http://malazan.wikia.com/wiki/Kalam_Mekhar

and a handfull of others, but the above ones are really kickass and play key roles.



Otter said:
But its nice watching people wince at the current trend of trying to make casts more diverse because decades hollywood has been white washing black, asian and poc characters even down to the constant casting of storm as a caramel skinned woman.

from this:

to this:

Close enough I guess.

 

Though I think casting a character thats supposed to be really pale with almost white blonde hair, as a black/asian would be a worse offense.
Token minorty roles just because.... even if they have to change characters seems wrong though.

I mean atleast they didnt have a white person play Storm, that is what this is akin too.

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The issue I find with most arguments as to why they would change it, is why does it negative effect you? Saying "why not just leave the character as white", is virtually the same as "what's the harm in making her a person of color". I see this day after day and it can make the video game community really toxic. I think the biggest factor is white people are represented 10 to 1 in cinema and television and studies show other demographics can gain more confidence, security, happiness when someone that represents them is in a film or television project. I'm not saying that it can't get out of hand, in the case of when it has no logical place. But it seems to me like people are making a mountain out of a moll hill.



SecondWar said:
shikamaru317 said:

In case you were wondering, BAME stands for Black, Asian, or Minority Ethnic in the UK.

Why do SJW's have to ruin everything with this forced diversity nonsense? There is literally no reason for Ciri to be anything other than White, she is the daughter of Emhyr var Emreis, who is shown to be white, and through her mother, Pavetta Fionna Elen, she is a 3rd generation descendant of Skellige blood, Skelligens being based on real life Scandinavians.

Why does there need to be a racially diverse main cast in everything, even in series where it doesn't make sense? Can't they just have a few side characters who are minorities? Why is that not good enough, when there are plenty of other series with diverse main casts?

So basically - why cant they be off to the side, hidden where I don't need to see or acknowledge them?

I think you've answered your own question.

BINGO!



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HandofPrometheus said:
VAMatt said:
Do the books state that she is white?

Most likely she is. They mainly emphasize her "ashen-grey" hair. Everyone is white except a few but mainly all main characters are white.

Well, if it is not specified, I see no problem.  A black or Brown girl can have ashen gray hair just as well as a white chick.



PortisheadBiscuit said:
SecondWar said:

So basically - why cant they be off to the side, hidden where I don't need to see or acknowledge them?

I think you've answered your own question.

BINGO!

Not BINGO. I'd be perfectly ok with them creating new characters who are darker skinned, within the Witcher lore there is a country of darker skinned people called Zerrikania. They could create a new character who is a Zerrikanian and there would be no issue at all for most people. The issue is that they are changing the established race of a main character in the series, that shows they were lying when they said they would be faithful to the novels. 

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VAMatt said:
HandofPrometheus said:

Most likely she is. They mainly emphasize her "ashen-grey" hair. Everyone is white except a few but mainly all main characters are white.

Well, if it is not specified, I see no problem.  A black or Brown girl can have ashen gray hair just as well as a white chick.

Her skin color is specified in 2 separate instances though:

"The officer stared at Ciri. His eyes shone through the opening in his visor, watching everything without missing a detail. Her paleness. The blood on her sleeve and hands. The white streaks in her hair."

"She had fair hair, ashen white complexion,  and large impetuous green eyes."

The only dark skinned people within the Witcher lore are from a country called Zerrikania, to the south of the map, nowhere near where the books take place. Ciri has no Zerrikanian blood, she has a mix of Nilfgaardian, Cintran, and Skelligen bloodlines. 



i see no problem with this



I’m black and think this is a bad idea. Just doesn’t fit. But what if it’s not even that? The OP is telling us this but we don’t even know for sure. But these angry folks need to be honest with themselves are just say that any minority characters piss them off. Stop pretending like it’s just changing of whites to non-whites that anger you. One even says “go woke, go broke”, meaning if you try to make a diverse cast they can’t watch. I wonder if this means they walk around society with their eyes closed in order to not see how diverse the real world is?



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