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Up until literally april this year, my launch PS4 had been going strong with no issues. Probably still is today, but I cannot confirm as I traded it in when I got a Pro.

My sisters launch PS3 with full PS2 BC is still going strong to this day.

Maybe you are just unlucky?



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If the main criteria for judgement is personal experience then the worst console I've ever owned was my NES. Trying to get games to play on that was my first experience in gamer rage. I had to push the cartridge in and out so many times that it felt like I was having sex with it. At least, it would have if I'd been old enough to know anything about sex--of if I'd have access to the internet.

Atari 2600, Dreamcast (and I spill Dr. Pepper on it), PS1, PS3 all played flawlessly. I did have trouble playing blue discs on my PS2.

Also, let's not forget that the first Famicom had it's own RROD situation and was recalled in Japan.



Cerebralbore101 said:

So this has been a thing since at least gen 7. The first 360 was a RROD machine, with a tiny HDD. The first PS3 was a massive George Foreman Grill with Jet Engine Turbines for a fan. My first PS4 broke on me twice due to my roommate putting it in a place with not so great ventilation. The XB1 came with Kinect and cost $500. Both the PS4 and XB1 were kinda weak at launch, leading to the mid gen refreshes of Pro/1X. 

Next gen I'm not even going to get a PS5 until the 2nd model comes out. Sony doesn't have many exclusives until around the middle of the gen anyway. 

 I mean... did you miss all the issues Switch has had since launch? Also, those PS4’s overhearing are clearly a you-problem. Most electronics don’t do wel in areas with little ventilation and lots of heat.  Have a Pro now, but my day 1 PS4 still runs like new. 



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"- The first versions of non-Nintendo consoles are always bad. "
What was wrong with the Playstation 1? The Playstation 2? The original Xbox?

What about the first Sega one? Atari? Neo Geo, and the list continues i'm sure.

This is just an awkward post. One console has serious problems. One had a minor problem. You had problems with one console, and one you are just straight up objecting to the price for the last.

While ignoring any issues the switch has. Like having to send my Joycon 3 months after because he couldn't go left.

Little alone the problems of previous consoles like the wii U naming etc.

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The first version of every home console or handheld (no matter if Nintendo or non-Nintendo) always had room for improvement. Otherwise there wouldn't have been much reasons for revisions.



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Bandorr said:

"- The first versions of non-Nintendo consoles are always bad. "
What was wrong with the Playstation 1? The Playstation 2? The original Xbox?

What about the first Sega one? Atari? Neo Geo, and the list continues i'm sure.

This is just an awkward post. One console has serious problems. One had a minor problem. You had problems with one console, and one you are just straight up objecting to the price for the last.

While ignoring any issues the switch has. Like having to send my Joycon 3 months after because he couldn't go left.

Little alone the problems of previous consoles like the wii U naming etc.

PS2 was a bad example.  It did great for a few years, but the phat PS2s were prone to lose the ability to scan disks overtime.  I had 3 and all of them fell victim to this.  It was a widespread problem on the net with only a few band aid solutions available.  It was not blown up as much though because as I said, it took several years for the issue to set root.

 

The slim PS2 models never had that problem however, and are far more reliable overall.



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Shiken said:
Bandorr said:

"- The first versions of non-Nintendo consoles are always bad. "
What was wrong with the Playstation 1? The Playstation 2? The original Xbox?

What about the first Sega one? Atari? Neo Geo, and the list continues i'm sure.

This is just an awkward post. One console has serious problems. One had a minor problem. You had problems with one console, and one you are just straight up objecting to the price for the last.

While ignoring any issues the switch has. Like having to send my Joycon 3 months after because he couldn't go left.

Little alone the problems of previous consoles like the wii U naming etc.

PS2 was a bad example.  It did great for a few years, but the phat PS2s were prone to lose the ability to scan disks overtime.  I had 3 and all of them fell victim to this.  It was a widespread problem on the net with only a few band aid solutions available.  It was not blown up as much though because as I said, it took several years for the issue to set root.

 

The slim PS2 models never had that problem however, and are far more reliable overall.

Interesting. I had two never had that problem.  Someone tripped over the PS2 controller and sent it flying across the room. It still could read disks, but couldn't use that controller slot again. And playing games on it without controller 1 is impossible.  I even got it out last year to check something and it still worked.

Then again my PS3 Fat is also good. I've not actually had a problem with any console. Until the switch and the Joycons.

Thanks for the info.



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Nintendo was great with launch models up until the Switch it seems. Those joycons are problematic, as well as complaints of warping and cracking units.



Ka-pi96 said:

Well the launch PS3 may not have been the most reliable PS3, but it was also the only model with full PS1/PS2 backwards compatibility so it was still easily the best PS3 model thanks to that.

As for the original PS4 model, you can't blame Sony for your roommate fucking up your console. They only sell you the console, not a decent roommate to go with it
My launch PS4 is still working fine though, it's racked up a lot of mileage with trains and planes too, but still works perfectly fine. It did have a disc eject error for a little while but that fixed itself about 3 or 4 years ago.

Oh and if you're comparing to Nintendo consoles power really is a non-factor so the Pro releasing is irrelevant.

Pretty much.

I have a launch unit PS4 and it perfectly works to this day (and honestly im pretty sure it will keep going until im done with it).



So are we saying the base Xbox One and PS4 were bad versions of the console because the Xbox One S/PS4 Slim and above are way better? Or is there actually something wrong with those old models that I am missing here? Can't say there bad just because their revised versions are better, that is to be expected when you revise a console mid generation. The original Xbox One and PS4 are amazing systems that had zero issues. And their newer counterparts just compliment that.