So are we saying the base Xbox One and PS4 were bad versions of the console because the Xbox One S/PS4 Slim and above are way better? Or is there actually something wrong with those old models that I am missing here? Can't say there bad just because their revised versions are better, that is to be expected when you revise a console mid generation. The original Xbox One and PS4 are amazing systems that had zero issues. And their newer counterparts just compliment that.