Machiavellian said:
JWeinCom said:
1. Personally, I'm actually required to report any arrest as soon as it occurs, so twitter is an irrelevancy. But, assume that's not the case, would my employer have the right to fire me? It depends. If I'm for instance an accountant, probably not. If I'm a representative for Mothers Against Drunk Driving, yes.
If I was in public and did something stupid, that is absolutely a different situation. I have a reasonable expectation of privacy in most places, even if they are public. But a public forum, a place specifically designed for broadcasting my ideas, I have no expectation of privacy. Nobody videotaped her. She chose to interact with a customer, and chose to do it in an entirely unprofessional manner.
2. I really don't particularly feel like addressing this, because whenever someone starts a sentence with "so what you're saying" it never is what you're saying. And indeed, I never said anything likely. She is not always on the clock. But when she chooses to discuss her job on her free time, and chooses to interact with customers, then she is representing her company.
3. At the bolded, It's not a matter of people can say anything they want, or be totally censored. As intelligent human beings we can decide on a case by case basis. I would hope that we can reasonably agree that calling someone an asshat for a respectable criticism is hurting a brand.
Saying that a company should be able to discipline an employee for calling a customer an asshat is not giving them the right to control everything a person says. Ease up on the slippery slope fallacies.
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2. Ok, I can agree with the "So what you are saying" as I can definitely say this is now I interpret what you said, which is totally different. As to her discussing her Job, that is actually not what she did. She made a post about a topic she was interested in. It would be different if she wrote a topic and stated this game I work on doing this part etc. Actually from the tweet her job is never mentioned. Just because this guy was a fan, doesn't give him any more rights than the average person on the street. So my statement stands. If I speak about programming because I am a developer, does it give my company rights to basically own what I say and tie that into a representation of their business. As far as a business is concerned, everyone can be considered a customer. Just having your own twitch, facebook and other public forum where you speak your mind can be considered property of your employer if you happen to say something they do not like.
3. You continue to say this is a customer, but it was her own twitter account. Like I said, its different if this was the company twitter account, facebook page or forum but it was her twitter account. By all intent and purpose this does not define this guy as a customer for Arenanet. Instead this means he was a fan of her. So yes, this is a slippery slope because she was not on the clock, not speaking on company time and not speaking about company products or services. Yes, she was triggered when she responded back to the guy and who knows, what was going on in her head at the time. From the verge article she stated that he chose the wrong time to question her post because she got tired of people who do not work in the industry trying to tell her how to do her job. As a developer I can understand where she comes from. We get this all the time with people who have no clue how we do our job trying to tell us how to do our job. Even the guy who tried to defend her basically stated the same thing.
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2. By her own admission she was speaking in her capacity as a professional. To quote her "“Today in being a female game dev: Allow me- — a person who does not work with you — explain to you how you do your job,” she added. “Like, the next rando asshat who attempts to explain the concept of branching dialogue to me — as if, you know, having worked in game narrative for a fucking DECADE, I have never heard of it — is getting instablocked. PSA.” She certainly seemed to think that her post, and the criticism, was related to her job.
As for the rest of the post I'm honestly not sure what point you are trying to make. It has nothing to do with anyone owning her facebook page or whatever. It has to do with her doing something that may hurt her company in a place where it is clearly visible to everyone, her employer included. If you do something in the clear view of your employer, then they can act on it.
3. He was in fact a customer. She was in fact an employee, which was public knowledge. Whether or not she knew he was a customer, is entirely irrelevant to whether her actions were damaging the company. As a company, it is in their rights to discipline an employee who is doing something damaging to their brand in a public forum. As a teacher, I am allowed to engage with parents, or prospective parents of students, in my personal time. I am expected to do this respectfully. I'm not sure where you have gotten the idea that employers can't take any action regarding what employees do when they are not on the clock, but this has not been the case for any job I've ever had.
Her feelings fall squarely in the category of her problem. If she can't control herself, don't engage. I get people telling me how to do my job too. It's annoying, but I have to deal. And in her case, she was actually pretty lucky, cause she had the option to simply ignore it, or block the person.