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Rate the Nintendo E3 2018 Direct

10 14 6.83%
 
9 6 2.93%
 
8 22 10.73%
 
7 35 17.07%
 
6 35 17.07%
 
5 29 14.15%
 
4 22 10.73%
 
3 18 8.78%
 
2 6 2.93%
 
1 18 8.78%
 
Total:205

Thought it was pretty poor. Doesn't really feel like Nintendo's dev resources have been successfully integrated yet, if you remove all the Wii U ports, the number of legit new experiences this year is indeed not great.



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bigtakilla said:
pikashoe said:

How do you know this game won't have any new features? Do you think they spoiled everything about the game 6 months from launch?

Brawl had a stage creator. I wouldn't really call most of what you said changing the formula. Nice little additions but far from changing the formula.

I would be ecstatic to be proven wrong.

Don't worry you don't need to be proven wrong because you are already wrong haha.



Surprised at the feedback, was expecting positive responses from Nintendo users on this site before I got on here, but actually some, of you are being more harsh than me.

Of course there's the odd person somehow justifying a 9 or 10, I guess Nintendo can do no wrong for some.

6/10 - Mario Party might not be crap.



Barkley said:
Surprised at the feedback, was expecting positive responses from Nintendo users on this site before I got on here, but actually some, of you are being more harsh than me.

Of course there's the odd person somehow justifying a 9 or 10, I guess Nintendo can do no wrong for some.

6/10 - Mario Party might not be crap.

I'm having a hard time understanding the extremes in either direction. It was very meh. Not great, not terrible just meh.



pikashoe said:
Barkley said:
Surprised at the feedback, was expecting positive responses from Nintendo users on this site before I got on here, but actually some, of you are being more harsh than me.

Of course there's the odd person somehow justifying a 9 or 10, I guess Nintendo can do no wrong for some.

6/10 - Mario Party might not be crap.

I'm having a hard time understanding the extremes in either direction. It was very meh. Not great, not terrible just meh.

I could understand the harsher scores if the other E3 conferences had been great, but considering E3 was pretty dull in general...

Though I'm also a Mario Party Fanboy, so the one announcement they did have is geared towards me, and it looks like they're finally going back to a more classic style of board.



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KLAMarine said:
Jon-Erich said:

Let's be honest. E3 has never really been a factor is gamers deciding what to buy. Sega Saturn's forced Spring 1995 launch was one of many factor's that led to that system's failure and it would have happened with or without E3. Sony's $600 PS3 was going to be a turnoff to gamers wether there was an E3 or not. Nintendo had arguably their worst E3 in 2008 and yet that turned out to be one of their most financially prosperous years ever. Microsoft's piss poor show at E3 2010 didn't matter because Kinect sold well that year. Xbox One in 2013 would have sold poorly regardless of of E3.

Well I can't speak for others but I know if there's one thing that has turned me off about E3 is when someone is talking to me about a video game or video games. My time is very valuable to me, just show me the damn trailer with some gameplay, few minutes in length, and I'll be on my way.

Don't waste my time!

I'd much rather just look at a store shelf or digital storefront, look at the games, look up gameplay, and go from there on my own. Most of my game purchases went down that way. No need for a 30-minute commercial with someone running their mouth.

/rant

With the exception of Smash, that's pretty much what Nintendo did with their show and has been doing for the last few years. Square-Enix did the same thing. With Smash in particular, some of the game's features needed an actual explanation. You can't really get far more streamlined than that. The type of presentation that EA, Ubisoft, Sony and Microsoft had was more in line with how E3 was presented in the past. They were 90 minute shows with people talking in between or doing whatever. In fact, E3 in the past used to be far worse because the company with the most sales would have pie charts and sales statistics that they would spend a good 15 minutes talking about. Sony did this during the PS2 era while Nintendo did this during the Wii era. So if anything, E3 is arguably more tolerable than it was in the past. It's also less relevant too, but that's another issue.



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ryuzaki57 said:
That was... empty! Empty of everything that could build a solid future for the Switch.
- There's no effort put in first party games, Smash Ultimate is SmashU ver. 2.0, FE 3 Houses looks incredibly poor in terms of graphics even compared to small-budget PS4 RPGs
- No Bayonetta, no Metroid Prime 4
- Paywall for Mew is just shameful
- 3rd parties aren't interested at all. I've been saying that 3rd party sales haven't been good on Switch and no one believed me. Here's the result today : just 3 new games including 2 ports. End of year is barren as hell.

Seriously, how can anyone say that Switch can have sustainable success now?

I think you're getting a little ahead of yourself there. And 3rd parties aren't interested?.. Some 3rd party games sold best on Switch when released alongside console counterparts. I think those game makers are very interested.



about what i expected only suprise was no yoshi 7/10



pikashoe said:
Barkley said:
Surprised at the feedback, was expecting positive responses from Nintendo users on this site before I got on here, but actually some, of you are being more harsh than me.

Of course there's the odd person somehow justifying a 9 or 10, I guess Nintendo can do no wrong for some.

6/10 - Mario Party might not be crap.

I'm having a hard time understanding the extremes in either direction. It was very meh. Not great, not terrible just meh.

Agreed.
Could've been a lot better, sure (2014 & 2017). But it also could've been a lot worse. (2008 & 2015)



Man, Nintendo just can't stop disappointing. Ever since late last year, it's felt as if the attitude towards the Switch and just Nintendo in general has reeked of an over-hyping of their ability to deliver. And this direct ... kind of proved that. Here we have a company who was able to completely rebound in the mind of gamers .... because of a port, a sequel that - if it's name began with "Call" and ended in "Duty" - would have been lambasted, a Wii-era fighter that while fun was irrelevant very quickly, a game that - despite being nearly completed as far back as january and having nearly 9 months of extra development time - had you doing the same repetitive tasks in every level 10 times over, and a JRPG that should have been delayed by 3-4 months because of how poor of a state it shipped in. Hell, the most impressive thing about the Switch's 2017 lineup, was what other companies were able to do with Nintendo's IP, not Nintendo themselves. Nintendo might have won 2017 with a huge lineup of games, two of which were received by the general audience as GOTG contenders. But it's so obvious, looking back at it, that the year was completely overhyped and that the excuse that "We can't expect much from 2018 when we've gotten so much in 2017" just doesn't hold up when so many of those games were nearly completed as far back as january. 

Remember when people said that there would be no droughts because of the merging of handheld and console developers on one platform? Remember when the moment there was a drought people used the excuse that ports count "because nobody played it on the Wii U!" Remember when they continued to use that excuse even after it became blatantly obvious that the only port that would expand to a much wider audience was Mario Kart, the game franchise that always sells millions no matter what?  

Like, what are we doing? Making excuses? Nintendo isn't this "new" "totally different" Nintendo everyone keeps saying they are. They're practically the same as always. Stupid online infrastructure, stupid delays, stupid planning. This has been evident for longer than just now, but this direct was the nail in the coffin. 

Ok, so not judging Nintendo on people's ridiculous hyperbolic claims ... Seriously, what are Nintendo's studios doing? The 2nd half of the year has a Smash game with a lack of original content, a Pokemon game that uses mobile Go mechanics to remake 1, and possibly a Yoshi game ... which despite looking like a cardboard cut out (heh) of the last one, has been elusive and might possibly get delayed. The first half of the year was so dull and yet we kept hearing the same ol' "Don't worry, it will be different in the 2nd half of the year!" "2018 JuSt STARted BRUHHHH!!! BE PATient!!!". Well look what happened now. Sure, on paper it sounds like a decent affair. But the fact that all the games look so ... mediocre .... lifeless ... dull, makes things even worse. Yes, Smash Ultimate will probably be de besssstt smush game evarrr!!! Doesn't make up for a lack of originality or any of the other parts of the year. And a December release date? For Smash? Really? 

Why does Fire Emblem look almost like a Wii game? Yes, graphics have never been important to Nintendo, and it does look better than a Wii game in some places, but I seriously expected a bit more polish. I will say that as sad as I am that it is getting delayed, I am also happy that quality will most likely be improved! It's actually quite funny, because I really wanted a mode where you could walk around your base in a closer third person character perspective. It looks like there is one! I'm just surprised that this didn't hype me much at all when I was looking forward to this the most for E3 (I didn't expect Metroid Prime or Bayonetta to be shown ... would've been nice, though)

Also was really hoping for an exclusive Mech game (not even joking, that just seemed so right for the Switch for me). I'm honestly in fucking shock that I actually got that .. lmao. Daemon x Machina looks fucking great, and I love the edgy CUT - TO - TITLE that they did xD. 

Everything else? Honestly pretty crap. It's not that Smash bros looks bad. It's just not that interesting. Why did it have to go on so long? Why couldn't they show new announcements for it? I love the fact that it has every character in Smash history, but it was such a waste of time. Smash was literally 25 minutes long. Why did there constantly have to be cuts to people talking that just wasted time? Why couldn't Yoshi be showed? Why wasn't there more emphasis on Dragon Ball Fighter Z's port? I mean, I don't even care that much about that game ... but jesus, that is big for a lot of people. Why the indies? Did they seriously have nothing else they could show? I mean, they even found a way to downplay Pokemon. Fucking. Pokemon. So many games that we know Nintendo or third parties are making that just didn't show up. 

Just a complete disappointment. But you know what? It won't matter. None of this shit affects sales. And we all know there will probably be one or two good directs in the later part of the year. And .... we're still getting ... Metroid Prime, and Fire Emblem, and Bayonetta ....... ugh. I'll just take it laying down. It's just so disappointing, and bad. I've barely used my Switch, at all, this year, and now I don't feel like I have a reason to - and that's what makes me mad and sad. Talk about ports or indies or kirbys all you want. This is just a bad year, I guess. 

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