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Conina on 31 May 2018
Mandalore76 said:
PwerlvlAmy said:

But is there a large enough group out there that still yearns for the Atari nostalgia for $250-$300, I'd say no.

I'm not advocating buying this, but are you people all stating the "Collector's Edition" price as the price of the Atari VCS?  The Atari VCS Day One Collector’s Edition is $299 USD, The Atari VCS Onyx is priced at $199 USD

But you need a controller to play games, don't you? Every other console also includes at least one controller. Even with the cheaper one (which will do shit in most other games besides the 2600-classics) you are at $229 plus shipping ($19 - $35 depending on the country)... that's already $248 - $264. Plus taxes / customs (f.e. 19% in Germany).

If you want the console with the modern controller (for games with more than one button) but without the classic controller you are at $248 plus shipping ($19 - $35 depending on the country)... that's already $267 - $283. Plus taxes / customs (f.e. 19% in Germany)

Germany Onyx + joystick = $229 + $25 shipping + $48.26 (19% taxes) =  $302.26

Germany Onyx + modern controller = $248 + $25 shipping + $51.87 (19% taxes) =  $324.87

And these are "early bird prices" if you pay a year in advance and take the whole risk getting nothing. Also no warranty on the device.

After that they want $279 for the joystick bundle + shipping + taxes.



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Mandalore76 on 31 May 2018
Conina said:
Mandalore76 said:

I'm not advocating buying this, but are you people all stating the "Collector's Edition" price as the price of the Atari VCS?  The Atari VCS Day One Collector’s Edition is $299 USD, The Atari VCS Onyx is priced at $199 USD

But you need a controller to play games, don't you? Every other console also includes at least one controller. Even with the cheaper one (which will do shit in most other games besides the 2600-classics) you are at $229 plus shipping ($19 - $35 depending on the country)... that's already $248 - $264. Plus taxes / customs (f.e. 19% in Germany).

If you want the console with the modern controller (for games with more than one button) but without the classic controller you are at $248 plus shipping ($19 - $35 depending on the country)... that's already $267 - $283. Plus taxes / customs (f.e. 19% in Germany)

Germany Onyx + joystick = $229 + $25 shipping + $48.26 (19% taxes) =  $302.26

Germany Onyx + modern controller = $248 + $25 shipping + $51.87 (19% taxes) =  $324.87

And these are "early bird prices" if you pay a year in advance and take the whole risk getting nothing. Also no warranty on the device.

After that they want $279 for the joystick bundle + shipping + taxes.

I see where you are coming from there.  However, I still think it's disingenuous to say that a PS4/Xbox One + SNES mini could be had for the same amount of money.  Also, it indicates that PC supported USB controllers would be compatible, which would negate the need for most people to buy an additional controller.



Fei-Hung on 31 May 2018
Mandalore76 said:
Masked_Muchaco said:
They're asking current gen consoles price for a retro/indie machine? This must be a joke.

 

PwerlvlAmy said:

But is there a large enough group out there that still yearns for the Atari nostalgia for $250-$300, I'd say no.

I'm not advocating buying this, but are you people all stating the "Collector's Edition" price as the price of the Atari VCS?  The Atari VCS Day One Collector’s Edition is $299 USD, The Atari VCS Onyx is priced at $199 USD

Fei-Hung said:
The cost of this thing is insane. You can buy a X1 or PS4 along with a Snes mini or a Mega Drive mini at $299. I understand Nostalgia but this is just pure greed.

Where are you buying an X1 or PS4 + an SNES Mini for $199?  Even refurbished/pre-owned, those consoles cost over $200.  New they are around $300.

 

Isn't it $299 for the collectors edition and then more on top for the controllers? 



Mandalore76 on 31 May 2018
Fei-Hung said:
Mandalore76 said:

 

I'm not advocating buying this, but are you people all stating the "Collector's Edition" price as the price of the Atari VCS?  The Atari VCS Day One Collector’s Edition is $299 USD, The Atari VCS Onyx is priced at $199 USD

Where are you buying an X1 or PS4 + an SNES Mini for $199?  Even refurbished/pre-owned, those consoles cost over $200.  New they are around $300.

 

Isn't it $299 for the collectors edition and then more on top for the controllers? 

The Collector's Edition comes with a joystick controller, but no standard controller.



Masked_Muchaco on 31 May 2018
Mandalore76 said:
Masked_Muchaco said:
They're asking current gen consoles price for a retro/indie machine? This must be a joke.

 

PwerlvlAmy said:

But is there a large enough group out there that still yearns for the Atari nostalgia for $250-$300, I'd say no.

I'm not advocating buying this, but are you people all stating the "Collector's Edition" price as the price of the Atari VCS?  The Atari VCS Day One Collector’s Edition is $299 USD, The Atari VCS Onyx is priced at $199 USD

These are limited early bid offers, with the Onyx not including any controller. After that the Onyx will cost $250, only $50 less than current gen consoles but also with no controller included, and the Collector Edition will cost $350, which is $50 more than a PS4/XB1/Switch.

Now matter how you look at it, asking almost the same price as current gen consoles or even more for a mini console, while offering a lesser gaming experience, is definitely not reasonable.

Edit: And to make matters worse, Sony and MS can, and probably will, discount their base consoles permanently to $250 this year or in the next at the latest, which would make the Atari VCS consoles even more overpriced.

Last edited by Masked_Muchaco - on 31 May 2018

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Conina on 31 May 2018
Mandalore76 said:
Conina said:

But you need a controller to play games, don't you? Every other console also includes at least one controller. Even with the cheaper one (which will do shit in most other games besides the 2600-classics) you are at $229 plus shipping ($19 - $35 depending on the country)... that's already $248 - $264. Plus taxes / customs (f.e. 19% in Germany).

If you want the console with the modern controller (for games with more than one button) but without the classic controller you are at $248 plus shipping ($19 - $35 depending on the country)... that's already $267 - $283. Plus taxes / customs (f.e. 19% in Germany)

Germany Onyx + joystick = $229 + $25 shipping + $48.26 (19% taxes) =  $302.26

Germany Onyx + modern controller = $248 + $25 shipping + $51.87 (19% taxes) =  $324.87

And these are "early bird prices" if you pay a year in advance and take the whole risk getting nothing. Also no warranty on the device.

After that they want $279 for the joystick bundle + shipping + taxes.

I see where you are coming from there.  However, I still think it's disingenuous to say that a PS4/Xbox One + SNES mini could be had for the same amount of money.  Also, it indicates that PC supported USB controllers would be compatible, which would negate the need for most people to buy an additional controller.

Well, you get a new Xbox One (superb controller included) + a new Atari Flashback (105 games + two joysticks included) for less than $300, shipping included:

They are also offering refurbished Xbox Ones for less, but I don't think that comparison would be fair... although the Indigogo pledges for the new Atari VCS probably don't even include any warranty.

And the performance of the Bristol Ridge A10 will be much closer to a PS3 or Xbox 360 than to a PS4 or Xbox One... so perhaps comparing PS3 + Atari flashback or 360 + Atari flashbackwould make more sense.



Mandalore76 on 31 May 2018
Conina said:
Mandalore76 said:

I see where you are coming from there.  However, I still think it's disingenuous to say that a PS4/Xbox One + SNES mini could be had for the same amount of money.  Also, it indicates that PC supported USB controllers would be compatible, which would negate the need for most people to buy an additional controller.

Well, you get a new Xbox One (superb controller included) + a new Atari Flashback (105 games + two joysticks included) for less than $300, shipping included:

They are also offering refurbished Xbox Ones for less, but I don't think that comparison would be fair... although the Indigogo pledges for the new Atari VCS probably don't even include any warranty.

And the performance of the Bristol Ridge A10 will be much closer to a PS3 or Xbox 360 than to a PS4 or Xbox One... so perhaps comparing PS3 + Atari flashback or 360 + Atari flashbackwould make more sense.

It would also make more sense to use the Atari Flashback 8 Gold in your comparison over the regular Flashback 8.  The Flashback 8 Gold is HDMI like the VCS.  In any event, please don't think I'm an advocate of the VCS.  I'm not.  I was just trying to make sense of the pricing comparisons being made.