FentonCrackshell said:
Medisti said:
Are you suggesting everyone else is racist for assuming she meant to imply the apes and maybe she intended how rugged the humans look? Because that's kind of a funny way to think of it that I hadn't considered. Still, what she was implying is quite clear
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That’s what it is. Because Roseanne went at Chelsea Clinton and never made a single ape reference. But she’s gone after 2 black women and referred to both as apes. But we’re the ones who are racist for putting 2+2 together.
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I am suggesting that most everyone else assumed that what she said meant that she was racist. Just because that would be your first assumption, wouldn't make you racist. That would be like saying people who feel hungry immediately when they get bored must be fat themselves, or must hate fat people, which obviously isn't necessarily the case, even though it could be.
It also seems odd that the ape part of the joke is being heavily focused on, yet the Muslim part not so much. Why? Both should be equally racist, so why focus more on one than the other? That could imply that being Muslim isn't as bad as being Black, which goes against seeing everyone as equal.
The fact that the franchise Planet of the Apes encompasses a tonne of different stuff, and not just apes, is why what she said shouldn't have been taken as racist so quickly. The apes in the movies try to live in their own little section of the world peacefully, yet the humans come after them and literally terrorize them, so why couldn't her tweet be about terrorism? What about the fact that there are horses in the films? Maybe she was referring to the horses like when somebody says that you have a "horse face"? Sure, she would be insulting their looks, which isn't a nice thing to do either, but truthfully, in terms of the SJW hierarchy of insults, making fun of someone's looks is way less of an issue than making fun of their race.
Do I think she could have said it differently if she meant something else? Sure, but hindsight is 20/20. Why did she apologize then? Well maybe she really meant it as most imagined she did, or maybe she knew darn well that no matter how she tried to explain what she really meant, that the damage was done and the media and SJW's were not going to let this one go until she gave in.
As I said earlier, my first impression of what was said, was what most others thought as well, so I'm not looking to defend her, I'm simply keeping an open mind to what the possibilities could be, since an indirect comment like that could mean something other than what first comes to mind. That doesn't mean she shouldn't try and be more precise and clear about what she means going forward, if she meant something else, but it also means people shouldn't jump to conclusions so quickly in certain cases. If a person standing in front of you pulls a gun out for what seems to be no reason, that's a time to make a split second decision and react immediately. When someone tweets something that seems offensive, a period of logical questions and civil discussion should come first before jumping to conclusions and possibly ruining someone's career/life. It is highly uncommon for the police to instantly shoot someone with a gun until they have used as much time is safely possible to assess the situation and make an informed as possible decision.
People aren't perfect, and while social media can be used to fuel things like racism if that's what is intended, it can also be used to completely destroy a person or group regardless of what they really meant. We do so much to try and help criminals to become useful members of society, yet when a productive useful member makes a minor mistake, we basically crucify them. This is another reason why there are so many less free thinkers today, because if you slightly screw up, your not going to just pay an equivalent price, your more likely to pay the ultimate, so why bother?
If she truly meant it as a racist remark, then she should face the natural consequences, but cancelling the show so the cast and fans pay for it as well? The way this should have been handled, is more like how the NFL kneeling situation has been. Initially let the people/fans decide, then if necessary, make it clear that certain things will not be tolerated, and offer options that allow employee's to continue making their own decisions, knowing full well the harsh consequences ahead if they choose to break the rules.
This is the kind of thing that leads to people like Trump becoming President. If the people themselves won't act civilized, what's to think their President would either?