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quickrick said:
nemo37 said:

The joy-con grip comes with these systems. Also, this specific bundle is made for people that own a Switch and want more for their household (remember in Japan living space is more limited so there is one TV per house) so a dock and separate AC adapter is not necessary for people that already have one. 

everyone in japan is buying switch mainly as a handheld device, nintendo knows this, thats why they excluded the ac adapter, its just a way for nintedo to make the price cheaper and try to boost sales in japan, with out really taking a hit.

Well yes, I am not refuting what you are saying I am just saying that this bundle, even by the text of the official shop page, is for households looking to purchase more than one Switch. This bundle only makes sense for those that already have the AC adapter and the dock. 

Imagine a case like this:

Parents buy their oldest child a Switch, but do not want to purchase a unit for the younger ones due to the expense. Nintendo offers a cheaper Switch without the dock and AC adapter, but the parents already have these components and do not need to buy them again, so they purchase this bundle for their younger child. The 3DS after its price-cut got a significant increase in sales in Japan precisely because it made it afordable for families to purchase units individually for their children, Nintendo is trying to do something similar here (although the price is still too high, but it is getting closer to the sweet spot).



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nemo37 said:
quickrick said:

everyone in japan is buying switch mainly as a handheld device, nintendo knows this, thats why they excluded the ac adapter, its just a way for nintedo to make the price cheaper and try to boost sales in japan, with out really taking a hit.

Well yes, I am not refuting what you are saying I am just saying that this bundle, even by the text of the official shop page, is for households looking to purchase more than one Switch. This bundle only makes sense for those that already have the AC adapter and the dock. 

Imagine a case like this:

Parents buy their oldest child a Switch, but do not want to purchase a unit for the younger ones due to the expense. Nintendo offers a cheaper Switch without the dock and AC adapter, but the parents already have these components and do not need to buy them again, so they purchase this bundle for their younger child. The 3DS after its price-cut got a significant increase in sales in Japan precisely because it made it afordable for families to purchase units individually for their children, Nintendo is trying to do something similar here (although the price is still too high, but it is getting closer to the sweet spot).

in the front page is says It does not include the dock, Joy-Con grip, AC adapter, or HDMI cable. seems like a huge rip off, and even if you are a parent eventually you might buy those other items, costing you a arm and a leg.



quickrick said:
nemo37 said:

Well yes, I am not refuting what you are saying I am just saying that this bundle, even by the text of the official shop page, is for households looking to purchase more than one Switch. This bundle only makes sense for those that already have the AC adapter and the dock. 

Imagine a case like this:

Parents buy their oldest child a Switch, but do not want to purchase a unit for the younger ones due to the expense. Nintendo offers a cheaper Switch without the dock and AC adapter, but the parents already have these components and do not need to buy them again, so they purchase this bundle for their younger child. The 3DS after its price-cut got a significant increase in sales in Japan precisely because it made it afordable for families to purchase units individually for their children, Nintendo is trying to do something similar here (although the price is still too high, but it is getting closer to the sweet spot).

in the front page is says It does not include the dock, Joy-Con grip, AC adapter, or HDMI cable. seems like a huge rip off, and even if you are a parent eventually you might buy those other items, costing you a arm and a leg.

Again why would you want those things, if you already have them? It is a bundle for households that have a Switch, which means they have a dock, HDMI cable, and an AC adapter. Considering most Japanese houses are only large enough for one TV, why do you think people would want a second dock? The 3DS and DSi have been sold without AC adapters in Japan for years for this very reason. The store page clearly says that it is for households that already have a Switch (ie they have the dock, AC adapter, etc).



nemo37 said:
quickrick said:

in the front page is says It does not include the dock, Joy-Con grip, AC adapter, or HDMI cable. seems like a huge rip off, and even if you are a parent eventually you might buy those other items, costing you a arm and a leg.

Again why would you want those things, if you already have them? It is a bundle for households that have a Switch, which means they have a dock, HDMI cable, and an AC adapter. Considering most Japanese houses are only large enough for one TV, why do you think people would want a second dock? The 3DS and DSi have been sold without AC adapters in Japan for years for this very reason. The store page clearly says that it is for households that already have a Switch (ie they have the dock, AC adapter, etc).

This. 

It's not like Nintendo is being deceitful, I don't see how they could be more transparent about it. 



nemo37 said:
quickrick said:

in the front page is says It does not include the dock, Joy-Con grip, AC adapter, or HDMI cable. seems like a huge rip off, and even if you are a parent eventually you might buy those other items, costing you a arm and a leg.

Again why would you want those things, if you already have them? It is a bundle for households that have a Switch, which means they have a dock, HDMI cable, and an AC adapter. Considering most Japanese houses are only large enough for one TV, why do you think people would want a second dock? The 3DS and DSi have been sold without AC adapters in Japan for years for this very reason. The store page clearly says that it is for households that already have a Switch (ie they have the dock, AC adapter, etc).

they will still need ac adapter, if they play it in handheld and take every where. aside from that the reality is most people that will buy this will be new owners looking for a cheaper price, only to find out they were suckered in the end.



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I don't think this will do much tbh. Its only 45 bucks cheaper.



quickrick said:
nemo37 said:

Again why would you want those things, if you already have them? It is a bundle for households that have a Switch, which means they have a dock, HDMI cable, and an AC adapter. Considering most Japanese houses are only large enough for one TV, why do you think people would want a second dock? The 3DS and DSi have been sold without AC adapters in Japan for years for this very reason. The store page clearly says that it is for households that already have a Switch (ie they have the dock, AC adapter, etc).

they will still need ac adapter, if they play it in handheld and take every where. aside from that the reality is most people that will buy this will be new owners looking for a cheaper price, only to find out they were suckered in the end.

No they don't. I have a Switch and I never take the AC adapter anywhere. The very few times I have needed to recharge on the go (like on the bus or on the subway where there are no available power outlets) I have had to use a portable battery bank which I also use for my tablet and smartphone as I also do not carry around the charger for them. It is the same case with my Vita and 3DS, the AC unit for all of these portables is at my house.

Also how is anyone being "suckered".

1. The store says that is is a second unit system. Which quite literally means it is for people that already have a unit and are looking for another.

2. The page mentions all of the components that are missing and what it comes with.

3. It even has a side by side pricing comparison.

Again selling a handheld without an AC adapter based on the assumption that other members of the household have an AC adapter is not new to Japan.

Last edited by nemo37 - on 23 May 2018

nemo37 said:
quickrick said:

they will still need ac adapter, if they play it in handheld and take every where. aside from that the reality is most people that will buy this will be new owners looking for a cheaper price, only to find out they were suckered in the end.

No they don't. I have a Switch and I never take the AC adapter anywhere. The very few times I have needed to recharge on the go (like on the bus or on the subway where there are no available power outlets) I have had to use a portable battery bank which I also use for my tablet and smartphone as I also do not carry around the charger for them. It is the same case with my Vita and 3DS, the AC unit for all of these portables is at my house.

Also how is anyone being "suckered".

1. The store says that is is a second unit system. Which quite literally means it is for people that already have a unit and are looking for another.

2. The page mentions all of the components that are missing and what it comes with.

3. It even has a side by side pricing comparison.

the page mentions this, will stores as well?  ok you dont have to take your charger every where, but imagine how annoying it would be if you can't charge your switch because the other person is charging, this can be very annoying, and will eventually lead to another charger being bought.  what if the other person leaves for a few days vacation or friend house. if you have 2 portable device 2 chargers are a must.

Last edited by quickrick - on 23 May 2018

On the surface this seems like not a bid deal. This is for households that already own a Switch and it is for Japan only.

But what it really means is that they are boosting up their Japanese install base as fast as possible. That means even more Japanese 3rd party games are going to be made. In a year or two there is going to be a flood of Japanese 3rd party exclusives hitting the Switch.



quickrick said:
nemo37 said:

No they don't. I have a Switch and I never take the AC adapter anywhere. The very few times I have needed to recharge on the go (like on the bus or on the subway where there are no available power outlets) I have had to use a portable battery bank which I also use for my tablet and smartphone as I also do not carry around the charger for them. It is the same case with my Vita and 3DS, the AC unit for all of these portables is at my house.

Also how is anyone being "suckered".

1. The store says that is is a second unit system. Which quite literally means it is for people that already have a unit and are looking for another.

2. The page mentions all of the components that are missing and what it comes with.

3. It even has a side by side pricing comparison.

the page mentions this, will stores as well?  ok you dont have to take your charger every where, but imagine how annoying it would be if you can't charge your switch because the other person is charging, this can be very annoying, and will eventually lead to another charger being bought.  what if the other person leaves for a few days vacation or friend house. if you have 2 portable device 2 chargers are a must.

Just like the 3DS XL, it's in RED on the front of the box (adapter not included) 

Switch uses USB-C anyway, most late-model android device users will have already have access to a charger by default.