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Fantastic for multiple Switch owning families, only need one dock after all, get the family cost right down, this plus family online sub is a God send



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quickrick said:
The dock probably cost nintendo 10$ to mass produce. i don't see why they would ever sell it with out the dock.

Even if your right it will just looks better. Like how they do 2.95 instead of 3. 



Pocky Lover Boy! 

Without dock, charger and HDMI cable just for around 5.000 yen difrence, full package for 30.000 yen definitely has higher value, but again its good to have lower price option in any case and this will have positive effect on Switch sales.

Whats very intersting, when Switch will have first price cut for 5.000 yen (or $50), this could sell for around 20.000 yen (around $200) and that's actually becoming handheld price point. :)



quickrick said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

The dock retails for $70 currently in the U.S., that isn't a huge price difference? K. 

It retails for 70$ and? DK country retails for 60$ and its a port of a 4 year old game. DK could retail for 20$ is still make huge profit, it retails for 70$ because nintendo wants it too. if they made a dockless switch, nintendo would be saving like 10$ because that what it probably costs them, so it wouldn't be worth it for them to make a dockless model.

Is there a source for this? Of course not

The fact that Nintendo Japan is already selling a dockless Switch for $50 usd less than the original bundle already proves you wrong. Of course any notion that Nintendo can veer from the original Switch bundles to push more units will be lost on you lol  



PortisheadBiscuit said:
quickrick said:

It retails for 70$ and? DK country retails for 60$ and its a port of a 4 year old game. DK could retail for 20$ is still make huge profit, it retails for 70$ because nintendo wants it too. if they made a dockless switch, nintendo would be saving like 10$ because that what it probably costs them, so it wouldn't be worth it for them to make a dockless model.

Is there a source for this? Of course not

The fact that Nintendo Japan is already selling a dockless Switch for $50 usd less than the original bundle already proves you wrong. Of course any notion that Nintendo can veer from the original Switch bundles to push more units will be lost on you lol  

They are selling it 50$ less because there is no ac adapter, no hdmi, Joy-Con grip and no dock. plus sales are pretty slow in japan, and they charge 30$ for the ac adapter which is a must, and costs like 2$ to mass produce. you can get a decent  dock not made by nintendo for 30$, so if a company thats not mass producing them can make them for about 15$ what do you think it cost nintendo?

Last edited by quickrick - on 23 May 2018

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quickrick said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

Is there a source for this? Of course not

The fact that Nintendo Japan is already selling a dockless Switch for $50 usd less than the original bundle already proves you wrong. Of course any notion that Nintendo can veer from the original Switch bundles to push more units will be lost on you lol  

They are selling it 50$ less because there is no ac adapter, no hdmi, Joy-Con grip and no dock. plus sales are pretty slow in japan, and they charge 30$ for the ac adapter which is a must, and costs like 2$ to mass produce. you can get a decent  dock not made by nintendo for 30$, so if a company thats not mass producing them can make them for about 15$ what do you think it cost nintendo?

With this you're assuming Nintendo is cutting into their own margins? $15 to produce the dock (up from your original assertion of $10 a few posts ago), $2 to produce the adapter, and what another couple bucks for the HDMI cable? Something is amiss in your estimations if Nintendo is taking off $50 for the missing items. We all know Nintendo doesn't cut into their own margins, they wouldn't even do it with Wii U. 



AlfredoTurkey said:
Signalstar said:
More proof that it is a handheld first and foremost

That was my exact thoughts. I believed them when they said their vision was a console that could be taken with you anywhere you went. Now, I'm rethinking that completely. This thing is a handheld.

I think that is what a handheld is supposed to be. The GameBoy was essentially trying to be a portable NES, it wasn't perfect due to tech limitations. Not to mention Game Gear and Nomad using hardware directly from their stationary counterparts (Master System and Mega Drive/Genesis respectively). Most handhelds, particularly more modern ones, tend to be about two or more generations behind their stationary counterparts in terms of visual fidelity, the Switch differentiated itself by being somewhat more powerful than last gen consoles and also have modern architecture more similar to current generation systems (it also had some conveniences with regards to local multiplayer setups, ease of connecting multiple controllers, etc.). Nintendo's home consoles did not place too much emphasis on graphics beyond what they required to make certain types of gameplay possible, in addition there was a heavy emphasis on local multiplayer experiences that they could not replicate on their previous handhelds; the Switch changed that because it is more powerful than their previous home console and can hence succeed it and it contains the local multiplayer features that Nintendo values in their home consoles. In many ways, Switch is the handheld that managed to succeed Nintendo's home consoles, but yes it is very much first and foremost a dedicated handheld gaming console.



PortisheadBiscuit said:
quickrick said:

They are selling it 50$ less because there is no ac adapter, no hdmi, Joy-Con grip and no dock. plus sales are pretty slow in japan, and they charge 30$ for the ac adapter which is a must, and costs like 2$ to mass produce. you can get a decent  dock not made by nintendo for 30$, so if a company thats not mass producing them can make them for about 15$ what do you think it cost nintendo?

With this you're assuming Nintendo is cutting into their own margins? $15 to produce the dock (up from your original assertion of $10 a few posts ago), $2 to produce the adapter, and what another couple bucks for the HDMI cable? Something is amiss in your estimations if Nintendo is taking off $50 for the missing items. We all know Nintendo doesn't cut into their own margins, they wouldn't even do it with Wii U. 

there not taking 50$, because the ac adapter is a must buy, it retails for 30$. if the customer ever  wants  to hook it to a tv and wants official nintendo products  hes gonna need a joy con grip, dock, hdmi, basically spend another 140$.



quickrick said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

With this you're assuming Nintendo is cutting into their own margins? $15 to produce the dock (up from your original assertion of $10 a few posts ago), $2 to produce the adapter, and what another couple bucks for the HDMI cable? Something is amiss in your estimations if Nintendo is taking off $50 for the missing items. We all know Nintendo doesn't cut into their own margins, they wouldn't even do it with Wii U. 

there not taking 50$, because the ac adapter is a must buy, it retails for 30$. if the customer ever  wants  to hook it to a tv and wants official nintendo products  hes gonna need a joy con grip, dock, hdmi, basically spend another 140$.

they're still taking $50 off, and it's aimed at households that already have a Switch. So there's obviously an adapter already in the household 



PortisheadBiscuit said:
quickrick said:

there not taking 50$, because the ac adapter is a must buy, it retails for 30$. if the customer ever  wants  to hook it to a tv and wants official nintendo products  hes gonna need a joy con grip, dock, hdmi, basically spend another 140$.

they're still taking $50 off, and it's aimed at households that already have a Switch. So there's obviously an adapter already in the household 

you because there so much people that are actually gonna buy 2 switches, they removed the adapter for a reason, its  a BS reason just to price gauge, typical nintendo.  main reason they took 50$ is to increase sales in japan, while taking the smallest hit possible.