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Carl on 18 May 2018
John2290 said:

Maybe but with so many MP shooters can they really hold numbers like they used to? And as I said to CGI above they'll need to make bullet sponge enemies for the BR to work and COD players aren't into that kind of game. I can't see BR working with near one hit kills and it seems they are trying an awfully lot of mechanics with the veihicals and for them to have this balanced at launch, I can only see the players base dropping like flies by the time they do figure it all out post launch.

I can't see why Call of Duty can't maintain a healthy playerbase. Despite the growth from other games, Black Ops 3 and WW2 are both going to be sitting above 25 Million units sold at the end of their lives. The mass market still adore these games and the addition of BR, if done right, will only strengthen the brand.



                            

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HollyGamer on 18 May 2018

Well i guess i just buy rage 2



KManX89 on 18 May 2018
CGI-Quality said:
John2290 said:

A lot of players may do so but they also do so in single only player games and not see them through to the end, hell some people buy games and never boot them up, their stats are off and misleading as can been shown with Dooms success and that of Rage 2's hype, a game that was so bland I can't remember a single detail of it is getting mad hype over a leak. People want single player experiences even if they want to buy it for single player and have the game still wrapped on a shelf. There's a post above I've said all this to snoopy but, Carl man, don't listen to their BS excuses that players don'e want SP. It's a lie and as has been shown with BF2 and TF2 and the success of doom and other titles people want that SP campaign. It also has been shown that MP games with campaigns last longer than MP only and hold player retention.

Also, no one asked for a COD BR, they forced it and it seems they hastily forced post Fortnite success and in no way will the COD business model gain a portion of that success. :(

By the way, check this out: https://www.dailystar.co.uk/tech/gaming/703498/Call-of-Duty-Campaign-only-missing-at-this-moment-in-time-says-Black-Ops-IIII-producer

If they follow through, can only mean that enough people made a real fuss about it for them to be reconsidering even before the game launches. Read it all, though. I wouldn't expect it from Black Ops IIII, but future CODs.

OR! They'll sell it as DLC at a later time. Something that was cut from the game and should've been in there from the start. 

It's totally in Activision's repertoire to do that. 

But I guess some people will be totally fine with this, repercussions on future games be damned.



poklane on 18 May 2018

So, just some observations about the game's post launch DLC

My prediction: Activision is finally abandoning paid map packs (hey, if EA can do it so can they). Instead of asking $50 for a Season Pass which gives you all 4 map packs/asking $15 a map pack all MP maps will become free, and we'll be seeing new maps on a monthly basis with them simply being released once they're ready instead of getting 4 maps once every 2-2.5 months. This will ensure that the Multiplayer playerbase stays unified instead of being split up between people buying DLC and people not buying DLC, which should be a positive thing for the amount of players which keep playing which in turn would increase micro-transaction sales. Also, now that the game has a Battle Royale mode they have another new way to generate money to make up for the loss in sales for the Season Pass and Map Packs.
I could however see them still asking money for each Zombies map, with there maybe being a Zombies Season Pass as well. Splitting the playerbase in Zombies up isn't that big of a deal since you always pick the exact map you want to play, even when playing with random people unlike MP where you pick a gamemode and then the game assigns you a map.


Chorlin on 18 May 2018

Let's ask little Pikachu about this.

Do you like the new route COD is taking?



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jason1637 on 18 May 2018
poklane said:

So, just some observations about the game's post launch DLC

My prediction: Activision is finally abandoning paid map packs (hey, if EA can do it so can they). Instead of asking $50 for a Season Pass which gives you all 4 map packs/asking $15 a map pack all MP maps will become free, and we'll be seeing new maps on a monthly basis with them simply being released once they're ready instead of getting 4 maps once every 2-2.5 months. This will ensure that the Multiplayer playerbase stays unified instead of being split up between people buying DLC and people not buying DLC, which should be a positive thing for the amount of players which keep playing which in turn would increase micro-transaction sales. Also, now that the game has a Battle Royale mode they have another new way to generate money to make up for the loss in sales for the Season Pass and Map Packs.
I could however see them still asking money for each Zombies map, with there maybe being a Zombies Season Pass as well. Splitting the playerbase in Zombies up isn't that big of a deal since you always pick the exact map you want to play, even when playing with random people unlike MP where you pick a gamemode and then the game assigns you a map.

I could see them doing a battle pass for Bo4. $10 per season you get access to the maps 2 weeks early then its free for everyone and you get a special level for the battle pass and cosmetics for BR and MP. Also 2XP in the battlepass.



NightDragon83 on 18 May 2018

Remember the good old days when people complained that the annual COD release just gave us more of the same?

Ah, good times.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

jason1637 on 19 May 2018
Mar1217 said:
NightDragon83 said:
Remember the good old days when people complained that the annual COD release just gave us more of the same?

Ah, good times.

Not just like people complained that this game is basically BOPS 3/ Advanced Warfare.5 , without wall jumping and jetpacks *eyeroll*

Umm No? Yes the game looks like Bo3. A treyarch game looking like a treyarch game wow shocker. The only similarity with AW is a grappling hook for 1 specialist. The game has some pretty significant changes. They showed 3 new game modes that have never been in CoD, manual healing, specialist that play a bigger role than compared to Bo3,, instead of 100 HP its like 150 HP so time to kill has increased, 3 zombies maps at launch instead of 1, each specialist will have their own mini campaign, new system that allows you to control weapon recoil, battle royale. 

Yes it has elements of other CoDs but saying its like Bo3/AW without wall running is like saying Mario Kart 8 is like Mario Kart Wii but with anti gravity.



jason1637 on 19 May 2018
Mar1217 said:
jason1637 said:

Umm No? Yes the game looks like Bo3. A treyarch game looking like a treyarch game wow shocker. The only similarity with AW is a grappling hook for 1 specialist. The game has some pretty significant changes. They showed 3 new game modes that have never been in CoD, manual healing, specialist that play a bigger role than compared to Bo3,, instead of 100 HP its like 150 HP so time to kill has increased, 3 zombies maps at launch instead of 1, each specialist will have their own mini campaign, new system that allows you to control weapon recoil, battle royale. 

Yes it has elements of other CoDs but saying its like Bo3/AW without wall running is like saying Mario Kart 8 is like Mario Kart Wii but with anti gravity.

You're contracdicting yourself, now.

Basically admitting what i just said but trying to refute my point by diminishing the importance of the points you made.

 Not really. I said the graphics are similar but then went on to explain how everything else is different.