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Ljink96 on 10 May 2018

I totally agree. So far it doesn't seem like a trickle rom dump of the same games and they're adding features. I've bought my fill of Mario World and A Link to the Past, I don't need another rom dump emulated on Switch.

I prefer this new model and if they do intend to add more systems along the line, I'm down with it. Somebody brought up the idea of games like Mario Party 1-3 and even the GameCube games benefiting from online play. Can you imagine online play with friends for Double Dash or Mario Kart 64? With this new overhaul it will be possible. That being said I wonder if Nintendo intends to add tiers of subscriptions because 20 bucks a year for an online library of games is highway robbery to Nintendo.

If they made a service with NES-GameCube where you could play online I'd pay $60 annually for that. And if they intend to keep the service going for the entirety of Switch's life cycle, they would have gotten $360 from me which I think is more lucrative for them.

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V-r0cK on 10 May 2018
osed125 said:
Ka-pi96 said:

And if you don't want all 20 of those games but only want 1 or 2? Well now you're paying more (and for ever, if you want to retain access to them) than you would for just buying 1 or 2 VC games. So instead of $5 or $6 as a one off purchase it's now $20 per year, every year for 1 game. Hooray for getting ripped off.

Besides that, what if you don't want NES games? What if you want N64 or DS games like the Wii U VC had? Where are those?

I don't want to create a console war, but in a way is similar to the PS+

Every month there are a few games for free which you might not want or you already have, it's basically the same. Or you might get lucky that one game you want makes it to the list on a particular month, but it's pure luck.

I think it's something we have to deal with subscriptions based programs.

Yes it's similar to PS+ but the big difference is that any of those free games from PS+ can also be bought individually, thus providing other options.

Whereas from what it seems right now, Nintendo is cutting out the option of just buying a game and, in a way, will be leaning gamers to purchase their subscription service as the only option to play those games.



KLXVER on 10 May 2018
Snoorlax said:
People just love to whine for the sake of whining.

Remember when we had to buy the same retro games on WiiU and 3DS after Wii's massive and superior retro game library? (except for 50hz)

I much rather pay a yearly service and get access to all the games at once as long as it doesn't turn into a Netflix case where some games are temporary and or exclusive deals and get removed because of the competition.

Well the prizes of the games you bought on the Wii was like 1/5 of the price on WiiU though.



Slownenberg on 10 May 2018
Lonely_Dolphin said:

I don't, I'm not interested in crappy NES games, yet I'm being forced to pay for them if I wanna play many of my Switch games.

Slownenberg said:
Yeah I agree this new model is sooooo much better for Switch owners than what the Virtual Console is. It amazes m that anyone is complaining. All they did was change the branding and they're giving us a MUCH better deal. Instead of paying what like $5 per NES game, $6 per SNES game, and $10 per n64 game, we're gonna get a load of all those games for only $20/year. This is so so much cheaper I can't believe Nintendo isn't charging $40 or $50 a year for online. This is a ridiculous steal. We are eventually gonna have a large library of NES/SNES/N64 (and I guess probably DS games since Wii U had them) for only $20 a year.

And if you only ever buy 1 or 2 VC games per system then why are you complaining, obviously if you only buy a couple games you don't care about the VC very much, so that is a made up reason to complain.

Let's say 5 years of Switch online and you get (besides online multiplayer) access to every single game of what will eventually be dozens and dozens of NES/SNES/N64/DS games for a total of $100. You've realllllly gotta make a stretch to complain about that.

It hasn't been confirmed yet if we're getting anything beyond NES.

Well if you think all of Nintendo's retro games are crappy then you must have thought the VC was crappy as well since this is the same thing but just a different payment model. So it seems you are just mad that Nintendo's online multiplayer service is no longer free. Well it is still much cheaper than the competition so think of it that way.

And are you kidding me? Of course there will be more than NES games and more than just those 20 NES games. Those are the games AT LAUNCH. Did you also complain last March that Nintendo abandoned every franchise except for Zelda and complained that the Switch was only ever going to have a handful of games because as we all know every system or online service launches with every game that it will ever have....

Show me which system had every VC game that would ever come out when the VC launched. Show me that and you've got a credible point. But since obviously that isn't true your point is absurd. 20 NES games available AT LAUNCH. More games will be coming regularly. Its the EXACT SAME THING AS THE VC, just a much much cheaper subscription model that gives us access to every single game instead of having to pick and choose which overpriced retro games you want to buy (and having to do that all over again with each new system, starting from zero).

 

People, it is STARTING with 20 NES games. Just like every Virtual Console, it is not launching with every game that it will ever have. For example, it looks like the Wii U didn't get its first N64 VC game until 2 YEARS after the launch of the VC. Anyone who is saying this service will only provide 20 NES games or only provide NES games is being absurd and is just trolling.



Lucca on 10 May 2018
Lonely_Dolphin said:

I don't, I'm not interested in crappy NES games, yet I'm being forced to pay for them if I wanna play many of my Switch game.

> Donkey Kong

> Super Mario Bros.

> Super Mario Bros. 3

> Dr. Mario

> The Legend of Zelda

"crappy NES games"



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melbye on 10 May 2018

I don't know what i think about it yet, although i always assumed that it would be some kind subscription-model instead of individual purchases. The online implementation is going to be interesting, i assume it will be some kind of leaderboards.



potato_hamster on 10 May 2018

Weezer has a song to describe what must have led you to the conclusions you made.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0OVpyvey4U&ytbChannel=%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20

Some people have hundreds of dollars in virtual console purchases that they will never be able to play on the Switch, do you think they love the decision? Do you think that people that own an NES classic really care about paying for games they just bought in the past year or so?



Lonely_Dolphin on 10 May 2018
Slownenberg said:
Lonely_Dolphin said:

I don't, I'm not interested in crappy NES games, yet I'm being forced to pay for them if I wanna play many of my Switch games.

It hasn't been confirmed yet if we're getting anything beyond NES.

Well if you think all of Nintendo's retro games are crappy then you must have thought the VC was crappy as well since this is the same thing but just a different payment model. So it seems you are just mad that Nintendo's online multiplayer service is no longer free. Well it is still much cheaper than the competition so think of it that way.

And are you kidding me? Of course there will be more than NES games and more than just those 20 NES games. Those are the games AT LAUNCH. Did you also complain last March that Nintendo abandoned every franchise except for Zelda and complained that the Switch was only ever going to have a handful of games because as we all know every system or online service launches with every game that it will ever have....

Show me which system had every VC game that would ever come out when the VC launched. Show me that and you've got a credible point. But since obviously that isn't true your point is absurd. 20 NES games available AT LAUNCH. More games will be coming regularly. Its the EXACT SAME THING AS THE VC, just a much much cheaper subscription model that gives us access to every single game instead of having to pick and choose which overpriced retro games you want to buy (and having to do that all over again with each new system, starting from zero).

 

People, it is STARTING with 20 NES games. Just like every Virtual Console, it is not launching with every game that it will ever have. For example, it looks like the Wii U didn't get its first N64 VC game until 2 YEARS after the launch of the VC. Anyone who is saying this service will only provide 20 NES games or only provide NES games is being absurd and is just trolling.

Uh nope as VC wasn't just NES games. "Of course there'll be more than NES" is just your assumption. Nintendo said there'll be more NES games, but didn't say anything about games from other systems. If we get N64 and GCN at no additional cost then perhaps I'll change my tune, but not a moment sooner.



osed125 on 10 May 2018
V-r0cK said:
osed125 said:

I don't want to create a console war, but in a way is similar to the PS+

Every month there are a few games for free which you might not want or you already have, it's basically the same. Or you might get lucky that one game you want makes it to the list on a particular month, but it's pure luck.

I think it's something we have to deal with subscriptions based programs.

Yes it's similar to PS+ but the big difference is that any of those free games from PS+ can also be bought individually, thus providing other options.

Whereas from what it seems right now, Nintendo is cutting out the option of just buying a game and, in a way, will be leaning gamers to purchase their subscription service as the only option to play those games.

Technically speaking, these games are not available elsewhere due to the new online functionality; but I get your point.

Either way, the games are so old that there are plenty of options on how to get them. Mainly emulation obviosuly, which I personally don't care if people do it at all, and don't think Nintendo cares too much either.



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potato_hamster on 10 May 2018
osed125 said:
V-r0cK said:

Yes it's similar to PS+ but the big difference is that any of those free games from PS+ can also be bought individually, thus providing other options.

Whereas from what it seems right now, Nintendo is cutting out the option of just buying a game and, in a way, will be leaning gamers to purchase their subscription service as the only option to play those games.

Technically speaking, these games are not available elsewhere due to the new online functionality; but I get your point.

Either way, the games are so old that there are plenty of options on how to get them. Mainly emulation obviosuly, which I personally don't care if people do it at all, and don't think Nintendo cares too much either.

I'm sure most switch owners would gladly trade being able to play their existing VC library on the Switch instead of online functionality added to 25+ year old games that were never designed for it.