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How much would you invest in Metroid Prime 4 if you were in Nintendo ?

20 milions or less 26 31.71%
 
21-40 milions 26 31.71%
 
41-60 milions 8 9.76%
 
61-80 milions 6 7.32%
 
81-100 milions 1 1.22%
 
Over 100 milions ! 10 12.20%
 
Nothing, cancel the game ... 5 6.10%
 
Total:82

Honestly, Nintendo was willing to take a loss on Bayonetta 1 and 2 for Wii U simply because it gives them a better reputation with the hardcore going forward. I could see them wanting Metroid Prime 4 to be massive and critically amazing to attract more hardcore users to the system. As the years go on the sales may even justify the budget, but they definitely need a good budget to make this game worthy of being waited for as long as it has been after 3 and the 2.5d one.



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Whatever is slightly above the average of a mid level franchise game.



Game doesn't need to be profitable in raw sales.

If it brings attention to a platform, meaning people buy said platform, which means those people buy more games... Then ultimately it doesn't matter if it is unprofitable.

Which I think is the issue Microsoft ultimately had with Lionhead/Fable.

With that in mind, I'll choose whatever budget that allows the developers to hit their design goals to release a solid product.



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Is this a joke thread? Twenty million is an obscenely high amount for a Metroid game. Maybe 1.5 to 4 million at the absolute maximum.

Metroid is NOT a flagship IP, not even close. It’s bottom tier as far as Nintendo’s main IPs go. They outsource its development.

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Whatever is the usual amount Ninty spends for a Metroid title, I guess this time it could add some percent more to relaunch the franchise properly.



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Tbh from a business point of view I would put it in the same region as what games like XBC2 have had invested.



If BOTW needed 2 million to be profitable, they could invest the same amount in Metroid; a top notch HD Metroid with excellent production values could easily sell over 4 million and become the new highest selling game in the series, factoring in that Nintendo's franchises tend to sell better on Switch than ever before.

Plus, as Pemalite pointed out, its not just the profits from sales of the game, but also that such a game would expand Switch's appeal and sell systems to people who would then go on to buy other games for their new Switch. There's tons of players out there who wouldn't buy a system for Zelda or Mario, but would buy one for an epic mature sci-fi adventure, and once they have the system they might then decide they may as well pick up BOTW and Odyssey.

Reaching new customers is critical to maintaining a healthy and growing userbase, and Metroid Prime 4 done right could win over gamers who currently have no reason to buy a Switch.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series X will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

curl-6 said:

If BOTW needed 2 million to be profitable, they could invest the same amount in Metroid; a top notch HD Metroid with excellent production values could easily sell over 4 million and become the new highest selling game in the series, factoring in that Nintendo's franchises tend to sell better on Switch than ever before.

Plus, as Pemalite pointed out, its not just the profits from sales of the game, but also that such a game would expand Switch's appeal and sell systems to people who would then go on to buy other games for their new Switch. There's tons of players out there who wouldn't buy a system for Zelda or Mario, but would buy one for an epic mature sci-fi adventure, and once they have the system they might then decide they may as well pick up BOTW and Odyssey.

Reaching new customers is critical to maintaining a healthy and growing userbase, and Metroid Prime 4 done right could win over gamers who currently have no reason to buy a Switch.

That's a misconception that it could expand the userbase, truth is Metroid requires too specific a taste for it to reach sales of 4m and Prime had the luck of the draw because people back then thought it was going to be a Halo like Sci-fi shooter (this was before the time of Youtube, social media etc...). Only way Metroid would expand the userbase would be if it changed from what it is which the current fanbase don't want, this isn't a series were you need to be into one or two particular things in your preference this is a series where players need to be into numerous things, Metroid is one of those series that will always have the same userbase range as a result.

Other franchises and new IPS are better prospects for expanding the userbase.



Wyrdness said:
curl-6 said:

If BOTW needed 2 million to be profitable, they could invest the same amount in Metroid; a top notch HD Metroid with excellent production values could easily sell over 4 million and become the new highest selling game in the series, factoring in that Nintendo's franchises tend to sell better on Switch than ever before.

Plus, as Pemalite pointed out, its not just the profits from sales of the game, but also that such a game would expand Switch's appeal and sell systems to people who would then go on to buy other games for their new Switch. There's tons of players out there who wouldn't buy a system for Zelda or Mario, but would buy one for an epic mature sci-fi adventure, and once they have the system they might then decide they may as well pick up BOTW and Odyssey.

Reaching new customers is critical to maintaining a healthy and growing userbase, and Metroid Prime 4 done right could win over gamers who currently have no reason to buy a Switch.

That's a misconception that it could expand the userbase, truth is Metroid requires too specific a taste for it to reach sales of 4m and Prime had the luck of the draw because people back then thought it was going to be a Halo like Sci-fi shooter (this was before the time of Youtube, social media etc...). Only way Metroid would expand the userbase would be if it changed from what it is which the current fanbase don't want, this isn't a series were you need to be into one or two particular things in your preference this is a series where players need to be into numerous things, Metroid is one of those series that will always have the same userbase range as a result.

Other franchises and new IPS are better prospects for expanding the userbase.

People said Zelda would never sell 10 million. That Xenoblade would never sell over 1 million. On Switch, games are no longer limited by the past sales ceiling of their series.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series X will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

curl-6 said:
Wyrdness said:

That's a misconception that it could expand the userbase, truth is Metroid requires too specific a taste for it to reach sales of 4m and Prime had the luck of the draw because people back then thought it was going to be a Halo like Sci-fi shooter (this was before the time of Youtube, social media etc...). Only way Metroid would expand the userbase would be if it changed from what it is which the current fanbase don't want, this isn't a series were you need to be into one or two particular things in your preference this is a series where players need to be into numerous things, Metroid is one of those series that will always have the same userbase range as a result.

Other franchises and new IPS are better prospects for expanding the userbase.

People said Zelda would never sell 10 million. That Xenoblade would never sell over 1 million. On Switch, games are no longer limited by the past sales ceiling of their series.

Zelda has far broader appeal (the worse selling mainline Zelda games still sold more than the best selling Metroid game) and much more freedom unlike Metroid plus no one ever said Xenoblade would never sell 1m the first game nearly did with a limited release you're going to have to link those who said that. Metroid requires far more from the players taste than these games and has since the NES days. Zelda is an adventure series with the recent game going massive open world with sand box mechanics BOTW even dropped focus on dungeons some Zelda fans are unsure about, Xenoblade is an open world JRPG with an in depth battle system that's easy to get into, Metroid is it's own niche in the industry to the point its its own genre along with Castlevania the latter of which has even been shelved by Konami due to its limited appeal which is the result of require such an advance taste to get into.