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Intrinsic said:
Jranation said:

They didn't notice that 2 of the highest rated games this gen are single player (BOTW and Odyssey). And in terms of sales, those 2 are not lacking as well. 

ohhhh, they know. But thats not what they want. What they want are games like destiny and COD. Overwatch, fortnite....etc. Games that they will release, sell like 20M copies or at the very least have 20M people download them then support with microtransactions for the next 3yrs.

Ah I see. 



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John2290 said:
EricHiggin said:
Great sales for a great game. Naughty Dog is a gem. TLOU2 sales are going to be fun to watch.

I used to be much more of a third party multiplayer gamer during 360 and PS3. Ever since playing my first PS4 games, being TLOU, Uncharted Collection, and eventually UC4, I've been much more interested in first party and single player titles.

HZD basically sealed the deal. Lost Legacy didn't connect as well with the female main characters and more drama and emotion, sometimes forced. Still a good game though. Until Dawn was interesting. MGSV has been quite good. AC Origins has just been fantastic so far. Looking forward to GOW, and maybe Detroit and Spidey later on if RDR2 doesn't take up all my time.

Yeah. Lost legacy feels off for some reason, not just the lack of drake either but the tone. I tried to give it a chance but it's failed me thrice now.

Technological aspects aside, Lost Legacy felts like a cheap Uncharted 2 to me. It followed pretty much the same blueprint. Even the train sequence is in there, and the villain is way too similar to Lazarevic as well. The game tried too much to match Uncharted 2 that it forgot to be its own thing.

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Hynad said:
John2290 said:

Yeah. Lost legacy feels off for some reason, not just the lack of drake either but the tone. I tried to give it a chance but it's failed me thrice now.

Technological aspects aside, Lost Legacy felts like a cheap Uncharted 2 to me. It followed pretty much the same blueprint. Even the train sequence is in there, and the villain is way too similar to Lazarevic as well. The game tried to much to match Uncharted 2 that it forgot to be its own thing.

 

John2290 said:
EricHiggin said:
Great sales for a great game. Naughty Dog is a gem. TLOU2 sales are going to be fun to watch.

I used to be much more of a third party multiplayer gamer during 360 and PS3. Ever since playing my first PS4 games, being TLOU, Uncharted Collection, and eventually UC4, I've been much more interested in first party and single player titles.

HZD basically sealed the deal. Lost Legacy didn't connect as well with the female main characters and more drama and emotion, sometimes forced. Still a good game though. Until Dawn was interesting. MGSV has been quite good. AC Origins has just been fantastic so far. Looking forward to GOW, and maybe Detroit and Spidey later on if RDR2 doesn't take up all my time.

Yeah. Lost legacy feels off for some reason, not just the lack of drake either but the tone. I tried to give it a chance but it's failed me thrice now.

hmmgh... sexists.

I feel you gys though, I just never felt the need to get it. Though in my case its a DLC thing, for some reason I have not been able to justify buying any DLC ever.



Ok so basically by this year PS4 will have 9 10 MILLION sellers.

WOW that's amazing.

God of War has 10 million in the bag.

HZD will definitely sell 10 million by this year's end.

Spiderman from the looks of it will sell a lot since he's popular as hell and will be even more so after the Avenger's Infinity War movie.



While it's great to see UC4 doing these numbers, why the "single player" thing? UC4 has a multiplayer mode.

Anyway, amazing Horizon numbers too.



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Jranation said:

They didn't notice that 2 of the highest rated games this gen are single player (BOTW and Odyssey). And in terms of sales, those 2 are not lacking as well. 

While it's unfortunate, game sales don't mean a lot. MP games allow companies to cash in with microtransactions and DLC more frequently. This creates a constant source of revenue. Fifa generates a ton of money with the Ultimate Team.

I would say that making great AAA single player games without microtransactions is becoming restrict to first party titles, since the console companies want quality titles to push units, even if they are not as profitable as a CoD or BF game.

The ratings are good, but nowhere as important to publishers as revenue. Even the two example, BOTW and Odissey, sold a fraction of what a Fifa/CoD/BF game sells yearly while not having the other revenue streams.



Ka-pi96 said:
HyrulianScrolls said:
I wonder if it will end up as the best selling PS4 game? GTA VI and Elder Scrolls VI would probably be the only games guaranteed to pass it, but both might very well not show up until next gen. GoW, Red Dead 2, and TLoU 2 also have a chance to go higher.

Doubtful. It's still a long way behind GTAV and GTAV is still regularly high up on charts.

Oops, my bad. I was looking at the wiki page of best selling PS4 games and they have GTAV at a mere 2m, which I thought was weird but then thought maybe it sold most of its copies on PS3/360. Shoulda known not to go by that. 



Hynad said:
John2290 said:

Yeah. Lost legacy feels off for some reason, not just the lack of drake either but the tone. I tried to give it a chance but it's failed me thrice now.

Technological aspects aside, Lost Legacy felts like a cheap Uncharted 2 to me. It followed pretty much the same blueprint. Even the train sequence is in there, and the villain is way too similar to Lazarevic as well. The game tried too much to match Uncharted 2 that it forgot to be its own thing.

It does have some similarities to 2, but I find the main characters and their story mostly overshadow it. 2 was still better anyway.

Intrinsic said:

John2290 said:

Yeah. Lost legacy feels off for some reason, not just the lack of drake either but the tone. I tried to give it a chance but it's failed me thrice now.

hmmgh... sexists.

I feel you gys though, I just never felt the need to get it. Though in my case its a DLC thing, for some reason I have not been able to justify buying any DLC ever.

LOL. Not sexist. I would say Aloy gives Nate a run for his money as a main character for me personally. Both are interesting, down to Earth, and care more about the adventure and getting loot done, than bringing up dramatic baggage.



I find the comment about single player games odd. They never went away and never were in the 1st place..?



 

              

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Single player games were never ‘dead’, there was just too much of an over saturation of mediocre/average joe single player games with not enough good ones being made for a while, which made Microsoft look at the data without any context and assume the genre was dying. It never was, in terms of sales potential. It only ‘died’ in the sense that appealing ones were few and far between, and that was technically the fault of developers.

However, it IS true that multiplayer games have more sales potential than single player games. And that’s part of the reason fewer good ones were being made in the first place. The best developers want to maximize sales and popularity, so most of them put a lot of effort into including multiplayer or even completely focusing on that. Absolutely understandable, but it created this false impression that single player games lost their sales potential. They didn’t, they just stopped being worked on as much by the AAA developers, and sometimes they were overshot in production costs. (Tomb Raider, etc)

Multiplayer has always had more sales potential, and it’s just better and less risky to make more games like that, but good single player games will always have high sales potential, provided they’re being made and made by good developers. Just because they have less potential doesn’t mean they have bad or weakening potential. They’re just as strong or stronger, they just don’t have AS much potential as multiplayer, and they never have. Which makes multiplayer games a bit safer.

.....all that said, UC4 still has multiplayer in it rofl So it doesn’t really fit in with this discussion as much, even if it isn’t the main focus of the game. The sort-of pioneers proving that single player alone can still stand strong are games like Horizon, Zelda, etc