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Will you vote for Trump in 2020?

No 82 70.69%
 
Yes 34 29.31%
 
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DaaaBeast said:

You are really the special kind of stupid, arent you?. All this nonsense you flame here is but your wishfull thinking. I'll ask yoy one more time - who will be those brave men who will go and kill Russians in fucking Russia? French or maybe German? Id like to remind you that they all tried allready, and failed hard at that. Full scale war means millions will be dying from both sides, can you morons sustain that? You cant do shit bout Afganistan for a decade...

You should probably ask if Russia can sustain a full scale war ? NATO has a total of 15 aircraft carriers and lot's of naval forces to surround Russia but NATO equipment is also far more modern than Russian equipment as well ... (Why else is Russia scrambling to find as many naval bases as possible ?)

I would be surprised if it took the US and it's allies more than year to turn Russia into rubbles ... 

It's also funny you should point out the US's failure in Afghanistan when Russia (they were far bigger as the Soviet Union) got their asses handed to them earlier AND was much closer to their home turf ... 

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Chris Hu said:
o_O.Q said:

if hitler had been successful in taking over the world and running the economies of those countries that would've been capitalist?

why do people that do not know what capitalism and socialism are keep talking like they do?

Germany during the third Reich was very capitalistic.  Germany's war machine was build by big corporations.  On top of that the Nazi's where very much pro capitalism and anti workers rights since once they gained power all unions where abolished.

http://spartacus-educational.com/GERMANtradeU.htm

"Germany during the third Reich was very capitalistic"

look dude hitler controlled the economy in germany... do you understand what that means?

 

"Germany's war machine was build by big corporations"

that were controlled by the government

 

"On top of that the Nazi's where very much pro capitalism"

how could that be the case when they controlled the means of production in germany?

 

"anti workers rights since once they gained power all unions where abolished."

the fallacy here being of course the assumption that a socialist regime never infringes on the rights of the people... and yet they do constantly



Snoorlax said:

Trump just spit in the face of everyone who believed in him.

He said voting for Hillary would mean WW3 now we're witnessing the beginning of WW3 and the end of Donald Trump. It seems like he was a leftist all along. apparently he supports ISIS who was funded by Obama. USA will surrender to globalism and will end up becoming a socialist heaven. I don't support communism but it seems like the Russians are the good guys here what a shame.

Well in other words he turned out to be a real politician only doing what a real politician does, no better than the presidents that came before him or the ones that will come after him. I was so worried that the swamp would be actually drained but I can now utter a sigh of relief.

But now if I may be serious for a second: There is a contradiction in what you are saying. If as you say he is really bringing about WW3, his end does not matter anymore as it will soon be the end of everybody (You do realize what actual WW3 means right?) so who cares about who's gonna be president in 2020 since there will be no 2020 on earth to begin with. Also in case of WW3 the Russians are not the good guys either, no one is the good guy when holding a finger on the red button ready to end mankind.



o_O.Q said:
Chris Hu said:

Germany during the third Reich was very capitalistic.  Germany's war machine was build by big corporations.  On top of that the Nazi's where very much pro capitalism and anti workers rights since once they gained power all unions where abolished.

http://spartacus-educational.com/GERMANtradeU.htm

"Germany during the third Reich was very capitalistic"

look dude hitler controlled the economy in germany... do you understand what that means?

 

"Germany's war machine was build by big corporations"

that were controlled by the government

 

"On top of that the Nazi's where very much pro capitalism"

how could that be the case when they controlled the means of production in germany?

 

"anti workers rights since once they gained power all unions where abolished."

the fallacy here being of course the assumption that a socialist regime never infringes on the rights of the people... and yet they do constantly

Boy are you clueless about history the NAZI's where fascists not socialists.  Get back at me when you pass history and politics 101. 



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Mr Puggsly said:
Puppyroach said:
Trump is a moron and a racist and anyone who votes for him is a terrible person, but there is no WW3 coming. There is something very fishy with this whole situation that I can't put my finger on, but there is definitely no WW3 on the horizon.

Also, it's the agenda of both Republicans and democrats to wage war since the 80's, the left is opposed to any war and would like to dismantle most of the military overseas.

LOL! Saying people are terrible for voting for Trump nonsense. There is a lot of waste, corruption, and bad policies with the democratic party. That puts people in situation where they may have more common ground with Trump. The last election was more about policy, not who is a good person.

We all want shithole countries to have their military dismantled.

That's bull, it was never about policy, since Trump changed his policy positions all the time, even during interviews where he could obviously switch between two opinion within minutes. Clinton also was quite flexible in switching opinions during the election, so it was never about policy. 

Also, it's different if a person would vote for a politician that we don't know whether or not that candidate is a racist, misogynistic bigot or not. But if you know, and still vote for him, yes it makes you a terrible person. And we all know what those terrible people have given the world now in the form of Trump. And it's not a matter of them choosing Clinton instead, since there are more alternatives in the election. 



Mr Puggsly said:

LOL! Saying people are terrible for voting for Trump nonsense. There is a lot of waste, corruption, and bad policies with the democratic party. That puts people in situation where they may have more common ground with Trump. The last election was more about policy, not who is a good person.

We all want shithole countries to have their military dismantled.

There's even more of this with the Republican party.  They deny literal facts, give extensive tax breaks while increasing expenses, leading to large deficits.  



Chris Hu said:
o_O.Q said:

"Germany during the third Reich was very capitalistic"

look dude hitler controlled the economy in germany... do you understand what that means?

 

"Germany's war machine was build by big corporations"

that were controlled by the government

 

"On top of that the Nazi's where very much pro capitalism"

how could that be the case when they controlled the means of production in germany?

 

"anti workers rights since once they gained power all unions where abolished."

the fallacy here being of course the assumption that a socialist regime never infringes on the rights of the people... and yet they do constantly

Boy are you clueless about history the NAZI's where fascists not socialists.  Get back at me when you pass history and politics 101. 

this comment unsurprisingly doesn't address the fact that the government had control over the businesses in germany which means that they were not capitalist

also are you somehow laboring under the delusion that fascism cannot take root under a socialist regime? lmao do you care to actually explain your reasoning on that one or are you only capable of 5th grade level dismissals when you are proven to be wrong?

 



o_O.Q said:
Chris Hu said:

Boy are you clueless about history the NAZI's where fascists not socialists.  Get back at me when you pass history and politics 101. 

this comment unsurprisingly doesn't address the fact that the government had control over the businesses in germany which means that they were not capitalist

also are you somehow laboring under the delusion that fascism cannot take root under a socialist regime? lmao do you care to actually explain your reasoning on that one or are you only capable of 5th grade level dismissals when you are proven to be wrong?

 

The government did not have control over businesses in the Third Reich.  I'm guessing you have NAZI Germany confused with the Soviet Union.  Again you need to brush up on your history and politics.  Also if you can't realize that abolishing all trade unions is a very pro business capitalistic policy then you also need to brush up on economics.  On top of that the NAZI's also implemented a wage freeze once they gained power which is another pro business and very capitalistic policy.  The only one that is constantly proven to be wrong is you my friend.  The NAZI's gained power with the financial aid of powerful industrialist.  Plus they need financial support of those industrialist long before they gained power since they had a powerful para military force that wasn't exactly cheap to maintain.



Falling to provide evidence to their claims I think I am also backing up Russia in reuniting what's left of Syria, we don't need another Toney Blair or George W Bush