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Will you vote for Trump in 2020?

No 82 70.69%
 
Yes 34 29.31%
 
Total:116

Trump is ogre.



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Johnw1104 said:

Are you familiar with RT? I thought this was common knowledge, it's basically state-sponsored propaganda.

Yes I am familiar with it, lately they are kinda bitcoin specialist.

Anyway, they are different - and therefore - worthy news outlet.



Oil 2.0 ... I mean Iraq 2.0



John2290 said:

it's no different than watching CNN or Fox news for news relating to American politics, you simply don't or you take it with a large grain of salt.

I dont say they are ideal, the only ones honest etc. Simple, they cover a lot of info western media " forget" to cover, like Yemeni war,  or that China condems Syria airstrike, or Saudi-Russia oil mega deal.

I mean, the best option is to try to gather data everywhere u can. Everybody is biased.



Johnw1104 said:
d21lewis said:
This video was uploaded in March...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=LmYCgK2zHCI

*Puts on tin foil hat*

lol you really should avoid RT, it's little more than Putin's personal video blog.

They'd been blaming everyone under the sun outside of Assad for multiple chemical attacks dating back to near the start of the Arab Spring... heck, Russia blamed three seperate people in succession for the attacks in 2013, saying it was rebels, then someone I've since forgotten, but finishing by claiming the UK gave the chemical weapons to that volunteer white helmet rescue force to use (lol) in order to serve as an excuse for an attack.

Of course, the western world settled that particular issue by signing a deal with Russia and Assad saying there'd be no further use of chemical weapons and that they'd stop producing them/destroy their supply, so those motives seem pretty unlikely given they didn't act on them whatsoever. :p

This "false flag" accusation has been cast about every time they've been used, but if it had been an actual false flag the western powers would have actually capitalized on one of them and invaded by this point. Occam's razor suggests that the local regime, headed by a murderous autocrat which actually possesses all of the chemical weapons that have so far been used and has been linked to their use time after time, may in fact be behind some of these attacks heh

you truly need to wake the hell up

 

we have past evidence of western powers lying to push conflicts

 

 

we know that the rebels have links to groups pushing sharia law 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/may/08/free-syrian-army-rebels-defect-islamist-group

 

the united states has confirmed that the rebels use chemical weapons

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-22/us-now-admits-syrian-rebels-have-used-chemical-weapons

 

we have loads of evidence that it was the rebels who were backed by the us

http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-syrian-rebels-sarin-gas-20130913-story.html

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article24761710.html

https://whowhatwhy.org/2014/12/01/really-used-chemical-weapons-syria/

 

finally we know that the turmoil in the region was planned

 

you've commented on this video before and your rebuke was supposedly that they've attacked iraq... i was so taken aback i didn't even bother responding since all of the named countries have either been destroyed or are being agitated against

 

anyone with common sense should wonder how the intention could be to help the syrian people by fucking bombing them... and not just bombing them but by bombing the facilities where the chemicals are being stored... i mean jesus christ you don't have to be a rocket scientist to put two and two together here

 

...the information is out there for anyone who wants to stop being a puppet



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Snoorlax said:

Trump just spit in the face of everyone who believed in him.

He said voting for Hillary would mean WW3 now we're witnessing the beginning of WW3 and the end of Donald Trump. 1.-It seems like he was a leftist all along. 2.- apparently he supports ISIS who was funded by Obama. 3.-USA will surrender to globalism and will end up becoming a socialist heaven. 4.-I don't support communism but it seems like the Russians are the good guys here what a shame.

1.-what?

2.-whaaaat???

3.-whaaaaaaaat????????

4.-X_X



the-pi-guy said:
o_O.Q said:

if hitler had been successful in taking over the world and running the economies of those countries that would've been capitalist?

Globalism isn't inherent to socialism or capitalism.  It can work equally good in either.  

o_O.Q said:

why do people that do not know what capitalism and socialism are keep talking like they do?

It's almost as bad as the people that think Hitler was bad because he was "socialist".  As if it had nothing to do with the death camps, because apparently if he wasn't socialist, he would've been a much better person...  

"Globalism isn't inherent to socialism or capitalism.  It can work equally good in either.  "

globalism is about centralised control across countries which is counter to what capitalism or private ownership is about

 

"It's almost as bad as the people that think Hitler was bad because he was "socialist"."

well i think its reasonable to observe patterns such as socialists putting regimes in place that always result in a dramatically reduced quality of life for the people subjected to them

it is a system that has never worked and breeds delusional resentment in people

 

"because apparently if he wasn't socialist, he would've been a much better person... "

probably, he maybe wouldn't have been so resentful of people who were more successful than him, which from what i've seen is the common trend with socialists

that's not to say that things are fair and there are no problems but rational solutions not motivated by resentment i think is the way to go

and i think another remark i have to make here is that i'm not even really speaking about all socialists, but a particular type that seems to be more and more active recently

Last edited by o_O.Q - on 14 April 2018

Tell me that OP is sarcasm.

Because it made zero sense.



o_O.Q said:

"Globalism isn't inherent to socialism or capitalism.  It can work equally good in either.  "

globalism is about centralised control across countries which is counter to what capitalism or private ownership is about

Globalism is an umbrella term that covers a wide variety of things, but sure pick your vision of globalism that doesn't fit with capitalism.  

Let's say you're right and pretend all the others don't exist.  

o_O.Q said:

"It's almost as bad as the people that think Hitler was bad because he was "socialist"."

well i think its reasonable to observe patterns such as socialists putting regimes in place that always result in a dramatically reduced quality of life for the people subjected to them

it is a system that has never worked and breeds delusional resentment in people

Most socialist countries have been authoritarian.  Authoritarianism isn't good for people.  



o_O.Q said:
Chris Hu said:

Yep, globalism is pretty much all about capitalism and corporations like Nestle doing shady stuff in order to make as much money as possible.

if hitler had been successful in taking over the world and running the economies of those countries that would've been capitalist?

why do people that do not know what capitalism and socialism are keep talking like they do?

Germany during the third Reich was very capitalistic.  Germany's war machine was build by big corporations.  On top of that the Nazi's where very much pro capitalism and anti workers rights since once they gained power all unions where abolished.

http://spartacus-educational.com/GERMANtradeU.htm