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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - Disgaea 5 Switch has outsold the PS4 version and some interesting tidbits about SNK Heroines marketing

Another interpretation of the good sales of Disgaea 5 Complete could be the rise in the number of fans of the SRPG genre on Nintendo platforms, owing to the success of the 3DS Fire Emblem games at reaching (and retaining) a wider audience of players. Considering how we were promised a Fire Emblem game on the Switch even before the formal launch of the Switch itself, I'd say that some of those fans bought a Switch earlier as a result and were able to buy (quite literally) the only big SRPG on the platform for months - Disgaea 5 Complete.
I have only anecdotal evidence from this forum to back me up, but it ought to be interesting to see whether the success of Fire Emblem has, indeed, raised the sales potential of SRPGs as a whole - which I do hope for.

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animegaming said:

 

Yamashita stated:

“For Disgaea 5, Switch sold very well. It sold just under 200k units in the west. Maybe 40 percent of these people already have the PS4 version. Why do they buy the same game again? Because it’s the function of a handheld that the Switch has. And Sony decided to withdraw from the PS Vita market. The memory size limitation of the Vita is just one gigabyte, right? But Disgaea is 8 GB. So Disgaea fans want to play on a handheld, but there is no handheld Disgaea 5 on a Sony format. So this is a perfect platform. We can play at home and we can play outside using the handheld function of the Switch. That is why the Nintendo Switch platform is growing naturally.”

Just one Gigabyte? He should know better, since Disgaea 4 on Vita is 3.3 GB big.

Phantasy Star Online 2 on Vita is 15 GB, Disgaea 5 on PS4 is 10.3 GB and Disgaea 5 on Switch is 6.7 GB.

There may be other limitations on Vita (RAM, processing power)... but the file size ain't one of them.



JRPGfan said:
Farsala said:
Where does it say Disgaea 5 NS version outsold PS4 version?

"Also, if we simultaneously release a Switch version and a PS4 version of the same title, currently the sales trend is two to one. That means the Switch version sells twice as much as the PS4 version. Physically and digitally. A lot of PS4 titles are coming up, so the market is very competitive. Compared to that, the Switch market still has lots of room for publishers to make money.”

Much less competition on the Switch, is what they believe leads them to more sales.
That and some PS4 users, double-dip and rebuy it on the Switch, for the portability, so overall it ends up selling more there.

Bolded the important word. Sure SNK Heroines and stuff like Touhou outsell the PS4 counterparts by quite a bit. But Disgaea 5 Switch double PS4 version?

The man admits himself that Disgaea 5 Switch hasn't yet hit 200k in the west and 40% of owners who bought Disgaea 5 Switch already had the game on PS4. Means the PS4 version definitely sold more than half and probably even outsold it.



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Farsala said:
JRPGfan said:

"Also, if we simultaneously release a Switch version and a PS4 version of the same title, currently the sales trend is two to one. That means the Switch version sells twice as much as the PS4 version. Physically and digitally. A lot of PS4 titles are coming up, so the market is very competitive. Compared to that, the Switch market still has lots of room for publishers to make money.”

Much less competition on the Switch, is what they believe leads them to more sales.
That and some PS4 users, double-dip and rebuy it on the Switch, for the portability, so overall it ends up selling more there.

Bolded the important word. Sure SNK Heroines and stuff like Touhou outsell the PS4 counterparts by quite a bit. But Disgaea 5 Switch double PS4 version?

The man admits himself that Disgaea 5 Switch hasn't yet hit 200k in the west and 40% of owners who bought Disgaea 5 Switch already had the game on PS4. Means the PS4 version definitely sold more than half and probably even outsold it.

That does make it sound like it hasnt actually outsold the PS4 version of the game on the Switch.....
Which would make the OP title of the thread misleading.



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Wow, this was very...interesting to say the least. This is the first time I've heard a company speak like this. Yamashita is very open.

I think this means if Disgaea 6 is in development, Switch will get it as well. Can't wait dood!



piggychan said:
Farsala said:
Where does it say Disgaea 5 NS version outsold PS4 version?

“We’re starting to do more on Nintendo Switch. SNK Heroines is not the only one. They support us in a good way. Compared to that, Sony is not friendly with small publishers like us. They just care about big Japanese companies. Also, if we simultaneously release a Switch version and a PS4 version of the same title, currently the sales trend is two to one. That means the Switch version sells twice as much as the PS4 version. Physically and digitally. A lot of PS4 titles are coming up, so the market is very competitive. Compared to that, the Switch market still has lots of room for publishers to make money.”

So then the thread title is misleading. It should read "Aligned Launch".



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If they pull that kind of crap with Disgaea after all the support I've given to them I'll be so fucking mad.
Disgaea is a thing because of PlayStation, for 15 fucking years, because of people like me.
Give me a digital only Disgaea for PlayStation and Nintendo physical copy because they pay you and you never come back to me, even when I'm with all Ninty systems down the road I'll just say: Fuck you



Azuren said:
piggychan said:

“We’re starting to do more on Nintendo Switch. SNK Heroines is not the only one. They support us in a good way. Compared to that, Sony is not friendly with small publishers like us. They just care about big Japanese companies. Also, if we simultaneously release a Switch version and a PS4 version of the same title, currently the sales trend is two to one. That means the Switch version sells twice as much as the PS4 version. Physically and digitally. A lot of PS4 titles are coming up, so the market is very competitive. Compared to that, the Switch market still has lots of room for publishers to make money.”

So then the thread title is misleading. It should read "Aligned Launch".

 

BraLoD said:

If they pull that kind of crap with Disgaea after all the support I've given to them I'll be so fucking mad.
Disgaea is a thing because of PlayStation, for 15 fucking years, because of people like me.
Give me a digital only Disgaea for PlayStation and Nintendo physical copy because they pay you and you never come back to me, even when I'm with all Ninty systems down the road I'll just say: Fuck you

Like was said before, the actual thread title should probably be "Launch Alinged Switch Disgaea 5 outsold the PS4"
But its probably still overall sold more on the PS4, so I doubt they ll just stop makeing Playstation versions.

I consider Disgaea a playstation title too.
Like it started on Playstation 2, and PSP/Vita, PS3, and now PS4.... its all been on playstation.



BraLoD said:

If they pull that kind of crap with Disgaea after all the support I've given to them I'll be so fucking mad.
Disgaea is a thing because of PlayStation, for 15 fucking years, because of people like me.
Give me a digital only Disgaea for PlayStation and Nintendo physical copy because they pay you and you never come back to me, even when I'm with all Ninty systems down the road I'll just say: Fuck you

It would be stupid to look back on the industry leader with contempt and not release games on their platform. 

 

Don't worry man, I am sure that is not happening.