o_O.Q said:
"Do you honestly need me to present sources to back up the claim that advertising to a group makes a product more appealing to that group?"
advertising what? their state before the product or after the product?
you are arguing for their state before the product
me and just about every ad agency ever argue for after the product
"The author also presents evidence that in her classes with different messaging, she attracts more african-american individuals, which implies that the lack of black people isn't solely due to demographics, but instead due to messaging."
this is one situation where this happened, you can't use one situation where there may be dozens of unacknowledged variables and use that to draw a conclusion about the whole country
"Rap is not a membership club. Poor equivalency."
why?
rap is a collective, the article is about a collective... why is it a poor equivalency?
i could just as easily argue that since the rap community is mostly black that this repels white people from becoming more involved
that's the argument isn't it? so how do we, therefore, give white people more representation in the rap community?
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a) I was talking about race there. I don't think gyms usually change people's race, but I could be wrong.
b) Oh nooooo. Someone's opinion piece reflected their opinion based on their experiences and the expert opinions of others who have businesses in the field as well as academics who research the field. Whatever will we doooooo? Let me assert that my opinion based on no relevant experience is more valuable and demand more evidence while presenting none of my own!
c) Rap is not a collective, rap is an art form. I don't need to sign up to the Wu Tang Clan to drop a mixtape.
"Yes, hello, Ol' Dirty Bastard here, would you like to sign up for a yearly membership to the 36 Chambers? Only $59.99 a month!"
No.
contestgamer said:
CaptainExplosion said:
Because nobody else called him out.
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Called him out? Again, for what purpose? Virtue signalling? To prove what a great person you are as opposed to the OP? There's absolutely no purpose.
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To....discuss?
I mean, this is a discussion board. If you disagree with something someone said, you say something. I mean, isn't that what you are doing?
This is silly...
contestgamer said:
I dont buy it. In a hypothetical, If I was the only white woman at my workplace (say a local Mcdonalds) and everyone else was Black or Middle Eastern, and I complained about how I didn't "belong" you know exactly what would happen. I would be ostracized by the media. This "I dontbelong" BS is an excuse for for personal weakness. How about instead of trying to change your environment to suit you, you change yourself to suit your environment. BE uncomfortable, stick it out and eventually your comfort zone will expand. A thousand years ago we sent 10 year olds to war, threw babies off cliffs in Sparta if they were weak and killed our neighbours for a bag of rice. If doing exercise among a few people that arent your age or race is too much a discomfort for someone then maybe they should continue sitting on their ass. In fact, there's probably a good chance they're fat because they can't handle a little discomfort to begin with. Tough luck, but their fault, not the local studios for not creating a "safe space" where their age, gender, race and size is perfectly represented.
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This article isn't a list of demands, it is a conversation starter. It is a discussion of how an industry can better serve a portion of its userbase/potential userbase. It is not a hit piece or a tirade or a demand that the world change, it is simply someone talking about their experiences.
I see no reason to be this rustled about that
Last edited by sundin13 - on 25 March 2018