That means absolutely nothing.  Ridley is one of the most requested characters by fans, their are many "most requested characters by fans" but none of them are getting in either. Especially if they're manga characters.

Also you conveniently left this part out

Manga characters will not join the battle (obviously).

Don't bother. I've been posting interviews and sources showing this and people will just ignore it and keep arguing.

At this point I feel like we're going in circles because one side clearly explains and provides evidence supporting their claim (us) and the other completely ignores it and follows up with Strawman arguments (them). Its getting a little annoying.

You must be new here. ;) Don't worry, you'll adapt to VGChartz soon.

I want Lionel Messi in Smash Bros. because he was in more than 50 video games.

I like how evidence in support (such as overwhelming video game presence, longevity in the video game industry, placement in Smash polls, or even support from official sources) is a strawman and an eleven year old email response (it's not even an interview like many are claiming) is evidence.

We have already gone over why this doesn't matter.

1. Dragon Ball series originated from manga, therefor Goku is a Manga character and is not eligible for Smash

2. No matter how many games he's been in that will never change the fact that he is a manga character.

3. There are many characters that people want in Smash that are ridiculous and Goku stands less of a chance than most of them.

As for the sources from you guys, I haven't seen any. If you would be so kind to post them i'll look them over (i'm being genuine here). I haven't seen everything in this thread but i've seen sources posted that go against your arguments, i'll give you a fair shake if you post your own.

It seems like its a collection of various interviews and such over the years not just an eleven year old email response and I don't think theirs any reason to think that Sakurai has changed his stance because he still says something similar in reference to Mega Man.

1. And he has nearly 100 video game appearances. You're right- we did go over this.

2. Correct, he'll always be a manga character. And due to his staggering presence in video games, he's also a video game character.

3. Except Goku's presence in gaming makes him anything but ridiculous.

My source for Goku's gaming presence is easily located on Wikipedia (which I've posted before, but here it is again: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dragon_Ball_video_games?wprov=sfla1). Goku's gaming presence is well documented, unlike a single email response from Sakurai that appeared on a Japanese website eleven years ago and can now only be found in Google's cache. While Funimation only owns licensing rights in certain countries, their request for Goku in Smash holds more water than most.

And last I checked, that was the only time Manga characters were disregarded. If you have other instances I'll read them, but so far it's coming down to an email response eleven years ago.

And I'm trying not to bring Mega Man into this, because it's a classic example of "Sakurai said, BUT". The problem with dropping that argument here is it disavows ALL word of God evidence and we're left speculating on anarchy.

Oh really? according to you Terra, Cecil, Kefka or a Chocobo wouldn't qualify to appear in Smash 4 simply because they're not as popular as Cloud? Let me remind you that nobody here in the west asked for Cloud to be in Smash 4 it was Nintendo themselves that decided to throw him in there and many were against this. 

I didn't say you said that, but it was the first "rule" that was already broken with Brawl.

Snake and Sonic aren't Nintendo characters... is it that so hard to understand?

I fail to see your comparison. Amiibo's are accessories based on videogame characters, Rob is the only Smash character based on an accessory in other words NOT a videogame character, he could have been an item just like the Super Scope.

It's nowhere mentioned that Sakurai allowed Cloud because of the spin-offs so you're just making shit up now. Sakurai said that Cloud is obviously the most popular FF character and most people probably wouldn't recognize Terra or Bartz (i don't agree with the former) so he went for Cloud because of FAN REQUESTS. So again, he ignored the appear once on a Nintendo console rule for the sake of character popularity and fan deman so you're the one with no points here.

Basically, reread my post and quote your sources right before responding lol.

I already responded to that part: 

Snoorlax said:  Yeah we all thought that Smash only included videogame characters and 3rd parties that appeared on Nintendo consoles but then we got Rob and Cloud. BTW here are some points that you should reread.

That's the only part you're focusing on but i've already countered the 4 other points.

I didn't ignore your sources. I've adressed all of the points Sakurai left lol

lol well if thats the case nobody is forcing you to stick around here using your same old tired arguments.

Yeah, remember we are the ones with the strawman arguments lol! 

While it's true Sakurai could change his mind, an eleven year-old email response (which is not the only time this issue has been addressed, mind you) is more compelling evidence than someone's opinion about what makes someone qualify as a video game character. Superman and John Madden should be a lock for Smash next, then.