Do you need a drivers license to operate a car? Can you loose that license if you are a reckless driver? Well, apply that principle to gun ownership and you would come a long way. And I did not know the purpose of alcohol was to use it as a weapon, good to know =) 

"Change your question"? Your question has been answered numerous times in the thread but you refuse to listen. You're kidding if you think I owe you another explanation. If anything you owe me for the question you have yet to answer in our last discussion about race

now there's really only two ways that i can interpret this since you have acknowledged that the soviet union was democratic

I said that democracy eroded away to authoritarianism from the central state, whereas you say "the soviet union was democratic" as a definite statement. If you think those statements are equal, try again. Maybe you should go find some Marxist-Leninists to hang out with and tell them how democratic Stalin was, you'll fit right in with them, lmao.

Oh and before god forbid, you say something like "Stalin was democratic!", the word is totalitarian.

you don't think that its possible for the majority of people in a society to vote the rights of the people in their society away to government?

So you do understand what it means. The real question is if you get what it means, then why did you choose the worst possible example instead of just saying this in the first place?

I know; I highly doubt you believe in half of the stuff you say. It's obvious you have a problem with the left, but all these bizarre arguments you make are just a front to mask your real points which is why you're always moving the goal posts. But I have no interest in discussing your point, I wanted to pick apart your example and I got what I wanted. I see no point continuing this conversation.

Regardless, I know you're going to reply to this post and I eagerly await to read it!

Where's the like button when you really need one? Obrigado for pointing this out.

Where both fought by professional soldiers, not civilians.

During the independence war, the militias actually almost made the whole thing fail, because they refused to fight in a different state than the one they where living in, and the states where relying on them at first as unlike the Army raised by the Congress, they didn't need any pay and thus didn't pester them all the time to raise money for the army (at the time, Congress had to kindly ask for money from the states, which where none too happy sending anything to Congress as it meant less money for them). Only once General Washington pointed out that the army was on the breaking point and would start looting because they didn't get any pay in over half a year did they finally agreed to pay for the army, probably also because the militias where so ineffective when they actually fought that the army was badly needed to save the states.

Oh, and the militias got armed by their respective states, because having guns at the time was extremely expensive (think about a couple 100k in today's dollars) and only few of them had any before the war. Hence where the 2nd right actually comes from - not having to give them back to the states.

Look above for what you got wrong there.

Besides, you can hardly compare 250 years ago with how it would play out nowadays. Have fun with your peashooters against tanks, IFVs, MRLs, helicopters, drones and jets. The government would actually have to try very very hard to loose any civil war

I really understand US culture and the right to have a gun, and I think it is something that will never change. And that the problem is not necessarily with the guns themselves, also several other countries have so many guns and nothing happens.

But it is beyond my understanding why people need to have dozens of guns, assault rifles, machine guns, sniper rifles or whatever for the right to defend themselves.

Where does this paranoia come from? I mean the story about how the people are only free because they have guns and if they didn't, the government would kick in everybody's doors and.. something? It's batshit crazy, where is it coming from? Why would you be at war with your own government? Do you think all other countries with strict gun laws are somehow held hostage by their governments? What would be the point of that? Gun nuts are always using arguments from like the 1700's. If there was a mention in the founding papers that everyone has the right to a horse, I suppose all of the nuts would have a horse as well, just because old papers.
Listen, the greatest force of all is capitalism. Everybody wants your money. They don't want to lock you up, they want you to go out there and make money and spend it on them.

Like... what country has loads of weapons and nothing happens? That is just false.

Assault rifles and machine guns are heavily regulated in the United States by the National Firearms Act of 1933 and the Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986. Sniper rifles are just any rifle with a scope on it that can shoot with high precision at long distances. Many sniper rifles are common bolt actions used by farmers and hunters. 

Overall, rifles make up only 4% of U.S homicides, in total. More than four times more people are killed with knives. 

Never said it took multiple people to weld any type of knife, I stated how many people you can kill with such a knife compared to how many people you can kill with an AR15 Assault Rifle.  When people try to defend guns they always throw in that people who want to kill will use said item.  Gun, Car, club you name it.  The difference is always access, and how many can be killed in that time span.  A semi auto with one half decent trained person can take out a lot of people in a very short span of time from a distance.  When people complain about even banning bump stocks then you have to wonder, why would anyone need an AR15 or bump stock for self defense.

Even with your suppose theory, each one is harder to do.  The greater the access to weapons that allow mass killing the greater the danger.  Why do you not see people make booms all day and just chuck them at people.  Because a gun is way easier to access and easier to deliver deadly damage.  Why do you not see people jumping into Trucks and cars all the time to kill a lot of people.  Because its not so easy to jump into a truck or car and kill a lot of people as it is to use a gun.

Thumbs up for this comment. I also don't understand why this ancient thinking still exists in times like these. Like many others as well, I highly appreciate a slowly starting shift in the general consensus. Companies like those in the OP are setting examples and I hope many others will follow.  And that hopefully leads to more critical thinking thoughout the entire society. 

Easy access to guns is one of the main reasons why there are so many shootings in the USA, imo.

The right to live is much more important than the right to carry a device that serves no other purpose than to end, handicap or harm another's life. There is no debate.

Also, if you want to change the political system you should use your voice. That's the instrument you are given in a country like the USA. Your mind and voice are much more dangerous than any weapon.

More of the whole slippery slope. Each new shooting we ban one more gun, or one more gun accessory. Fox News is told in court they are not real news cause of all the opinion stuff. The way other news sites are like CNN these days, I can see others lose that. Trump mentions a gov't run news station to prevent bias. Protesters constantly preventing people they don't agree with from speaking at public places like universities. Mentions of banning certain words due to their hatefulness.  ECT.

In say 100 years, is it unfathomable to imagine a US that all weapons are banned, all news is government run and you can be jailed for speaking out in public on something people don't agree with?

But lets talk only this one case. But as for your bolded. Lets say their are better rules for gun ownership. Tell me how that would have prevented this event? The only people surprised by the school shooting and didn't see it coming where his guardians who are coincidentally trying to now get his $800,000.00 inheritance. At least two people contacted the FBI and warned them about this person doing a school shooting. The police had been to his house like 30+ times. He was expelled from school. He had photos of animals he killed and such on facebook. What did anyone do to prevent him from his mass murder? NOTHING. Whether he used a gun or not, he would have done something and it was apparent to everyone, except the people trying to get his money. Yet what was done? NOTHING.