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Wiibaron said:

66 million people voted for Hillary Clinton after knowing she went around the Gov email system to make sure she had 'approval' of what people should and should not know about her dealings.  And knowing that she demeaned the many women that her husband violated.  And knowing her health was questionable.

What does that say about the other guy....and frankly the email thing was overhyped like a Ubisoft release on crack. Also she's a spring chicken compared to Trump.

jason1637 said:
America mostly isn't divided. Don't let the mainstream media fool you to believing that it is.

Mainstream Media is what tries to keep America together. It's the non-mainstream that inflames, frankly on both sides. 

Also 'mainstream X' is pretentious sounding to say. 



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The US isn't as divided as most think. They are divided, but the media blows it out of proportion because that's just what they do. It's their job, and they do it for many reasons and they are very good at it, but make no mistake, it's not as bad as they make it out to be. The fact that most major US media, along with most major worldwide media, all have very similar day to day news with very similar messages, is not coincidence. Same reason why businesses keep the same message and anyone who's part of the business that breaks/changes the message, gets fired most of the time.

Anyone who thinks Trump is just taking all the glory of Obama fixing things after Bush, well you can't really look at it that way. You can either say each prez has done what they have done during their time in office, or that every single prez is simply carrying the torch that the first prez once lit. Sure, Trump does make it sound like he's taking some of Obama's success for himself, but it's no different than Obama taking credit for having to deal with Bush's failures. There will always be some overlap from prez to prez.

Could America survive another civil war? Absolutely. Conservative/Republican America isn't going away any time soon, or ever for that matter. Liberal America's biggest fear should be civil war, because it means major changes to Liberal politics in the US if it ever happens. Worst case scenario, America ends up back where it was around WW2, in terms of politics and citizens viewpoints and behaviors. Much more down to Earth, much less aggressive, and more about America and much less about me, myself, and I. Civil war nowadays is pretty unlikely. If anything, I see the individual states breaking up before physical destruction.

I myself wouldn't be surprised to see a future America that has gone the way of Europe. An America where every state is it's own Country. Europe used to be much larger nations, and over time separated, and still is trying to separate to some degree today. When you have a Country as large and prosperous as the US, it's extremely difficult to keep it all unified and stable, especially as inequality grows. Constantly hearing about states like Texas wanting to go their own way, and now early talks about California potentially splitting, I don't see this as an if but when.

Whether or not complete Globalism is the right answer to the worlds problems is highly questionable, but it's extremely clear that the people are far from being ready for something like that. This push to globalize may be necessary, but needs to be done in a less aggressive manner if it's ever going to happen. Pushing too hard to unite everything too soon, can backfire and lead to splitting the world more than it already was before.



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Aeolus451 said:
pokoko said:

So you're praising Obama for starting the recovery?  Look, you might want to see the President as being responsible for all parts of the economy but you also claimed that experts are also giving all the credit to Trump, which is not true.  The economic recovery started years ago.  

I'm not trying to change your mind.  I don't care if you want to give Trump credit for the moon landing in 1969.  However, what you said in the post I quoted initially is mostly propaganda.  Some numbers have improved under Trump, some have not--and almost all of it is largely inline with previous trends.  That is what experts will tell you.

Of course, we still have to see the tax revision will result in a spike, which would be credited to Trump, as would a deficit balloon if he is unable to offset the reduction in tax revenue.  

I didn't say the recovery is because of but the boom is definitely all Trump. I wanted to post this pic in this thread because I thought it was funny.

We haven't seen a boom, just a modest growth trend in some categories that's pretty much in keeping with previous trends.  We might see one with the tax revision but that hasn't come into effect yet.  Personally, I think we will see an increase in growth--as a former business owner, I'm a fan of reducing taxes in the business sector as long as Trump can make up for the lost revenue in a way that does not damage the country.  

The funny thing is, even the segments that were trending downward before are still trending downward under Trump--are you also going to blame him for that?  That's a serious question and I would like an answer.

As for the picture ... uh, okay?  



A lot of the gobal developments are set in stone regardless of what the US president does. Clean energy will take over. China will surpass the US in GDP, eventually maybe even in cultural influence (although we are becoming increasingly more culturally homogenous as a whole, so it won't be as apparent).

Politics will, by and large, not make the world change course as a whole. Politics can push and tug somewhat in differing directions, and accelerate or slow down development, for a while, but a lot of things will eventually happen because they're the nigh inevitable development.



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numberwang said:
deskpro2k3 said:
R I mean they have no problem with an accused molester

 





numberwang said:

*snip*

And this is from HuffPost too ... (Trump must be doing something right considering most of his disfavorable base are siding him but as for the there's nothing that can be done since their not open to change mind)



 

 

hegel funded marx btw



For anyone who still thinks that the media is just making this up and the country is not divided. Here a crazy poll https://youtu.be/PjnJvN0lniU Tell me again that the country is not divided. It started exactly like that in turkey. Exactly like that. Erdogan used the same terms like derin devlet (deep state), barons (elites), illuminati and mason (illuminati and freemasons). He divided the country so much that the People behind him are now in a position were they would kill for him. I see the exactly same thing in the united staates. Bye bye my beloved america.