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Forums - Sales Discussion - Japan sales (Week 1): Media Create/Famitsu/Dengeki - January 01-07, 2018

Splatoon 2 may hit 2 million, physically, faster than I originally thought. Even now, that franchise continues to pass my expectations.

Super Mario Odyssey is well on its way to becoming the best selling 3D Mario in Japan (and everywhere else) by a wide margin.

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is selling much better than the original (not hard to do when it was on the Wii U, but still.)

And Breath of the Wild marches ever closer to 1 million physical copies sold on the Switch alone! 800k!!



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Good week for PS4. Maybe 6m in next chart!



jonathanalis said:
I was wondering why the last week of december was weaker than first week of january...
Usually is the oposite.

 

Dankaroo said:
Wow, an increase in hardware sales post Christmas is pretty rare. I wonder how long it will take for the supply to finally meet the demand.

Actually, it's quite common for New Year's Week to see an increase in sales. It doesn't happen to every system every year, but it does happen all the time.



If you had said Zelda would outsell Final Fantasy in Japan 10, 5, or even 2 years ago, people would have called you a lunatic.

I don't know which one this says more about, the rise and growth of the Zelda series caused by Breath of the Wild, or the decline of Final Fantasy since XIII.

Edit: Actually, now that I look at the series as a whole, it's been declining in Japan looong before XIII.

Final Fantasy VIII - 3.63 million; The best selling game in the series in Japan.
Final Fantasy IX - 2.78 million
Final Fantasy X - 2.73 million
Final Fantasy XII - 2.33 million
Final Fantasy XIII - 1.87 million
Final Fantasy XV - 1.01 million

Where they hell did SquareSoft/Square Enix go wrong for this to happen? This all can't just be chalked up to the decline of the console market, because the PS2 era was when console gaming was at its peak in Japan.

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ryuzaki57 said:
Good week for PS4. Maybe 6m in next chart!

Dont forget to mention those great third party legs for switch!



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PAOerfulone said:

If you had said Zelda would outsell Final Fantasy in Japan 10, 5, or even 2 years ago, people would have called you a lunatic.

I don't know which one this says more about, the rise and growth of the Zelda series caused by Breath of the Wild, or the decline of Final Fantasy since XIII.

Edit: Actually, now that I look at the series as a whole, it's been declining in Japan looong before XIII.

Final Fantasy VIII - 3.63 million; The best selling game in the series in Japan.
Final Fantasy IX - 2.78 million
Final Fantasy X - 2.73 million
Final Fantasy XII - 2.33 million
Final Fantasy XIII - 1.87 million
Final Fantasy XV - 1.01 million

Where they hell did SquareSoft/Square Enix go wrong for this to happen? This all can't just be chalked up to the decline of the console market, because the PS2 era was when console gaming was at its peak in Japan.

Threadworthy. Zelda bigger than ff in japan. Zelda will beat it by a good margin. Zelda sell through is already 1mil+ (with digital) lets gooo :p



Well FFXV is inching closer to the best selling FF's in the world, and at the same time the worst selling in Japan. Apparently now it is over 7m WW. https://www.dualshockers.com/monster-hunter-world-sales-10-million-copies/ I wonder why they didn't focus on Japan?

Also for full comparison is last known digital numbers:

Zelda BoTW Wii U+ Switch= ~62k
FFXV= 29. [PS4] Final Fantasy XV - 749 / 92.389 (Square Enix) - {29/11/2016}



Farsala said:
Well FFXV is inching closer to the best selling FF's in the world, and at the same time the worst selling in Japan. Apparently now it is over 7m WW. https://www.dualshockers.com/monster-hunter-world-sales-10-million-copies/ I wonder why they didn't focus on Japan?

Also for full comparison is last known digital numbers:

Zelda BoTW Wii U+ Switch= ~62k
FFXV= 29. [PS4] Final Fantasy XV - 749 / 92.389 (Square Enix) - {29/11/2016}

Estimate in japan ff will be around 1.2mil to 1.3mil lifetime (ship+digital) while Zelda is already well over 1mil now. Itll be ship+digital at minimum 1.3mil at this rate. How high can it go is any1 guess. I doubt 2mil lol. That would be crazy

 

That said ff is still bigger in japan than Zelda unless they both continue to incline and decline in sales

 

WW zelda will easily outsell ff. Might possibly even double sales (very low chance but possible)



PAOerfulone said:

If you had said Zelda would outsell Final Fantasy in Japan 10, 5, or even 2 years ago, people would have called you a lunatic.

I don't know which one this says more about, the rise and growth of the Zelda series caused by Breath of the Wild, or the decline of Final Fantasy since XIII.

Edit: Actually, now that I look at the series as a whole, it's been declining in Japan looong before XIII.

Final Fantasy VIII - 3.63 million; The best selling game in the series in Japan.
Final Fantasy IX - 2.78 million
Final Fantasy X - 2.73 million
Final Fantasy XII - 2.33 million
Final Fantasy XIII - 1.87 million
Final Fantasy XV - 1.01 million

Where they hell did SquareSoft/Square Enix go wrong for this to happen? This all can't just be chalked up to the decline of the console market, because the PS2 era was when console gaming was at its peak in Japan.

Well the market shrunk drastically for home consoles after the ps2 for one. Simply BEING a home console game is a disadvantage in japan.

Plus, FF has been inching away from the style japanese fans like, especially after 13. They'd rather play dragon quest.



So, I did some calculations for Breath of the Wild,

1,000,000 - 802,811 = 197,189.

With 51 weeks left in the year, it would need to sell an average of 3,866 copies per week to pass 1 million copies sold physically on the Switch alone by the end of the year.