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The man has a right to sue. Let the courts decide.

I mean, let's be fair. If women can start petitions and sue the Boy Scouts to force them to accept women, then the man can sue on similar grounds as well.



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I have no issues with places that only accept woman, gay, black, atheist etc as I don't have issues with ones that only accept man, straight, white, christians etc... nor do I have issues on cases they charge less to woman to attract that public and also attract the men.



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I don't mind if a private organization or private company allows only certain demographics. I remember a South Park episode about the boy scouts not allowing gay people. Eventually they did allow gay people, but big gay al (south park character) didn't want in because he didn't want to infringe on the private organization rights to free speech. That is such a good episode and recommend it to anyone (very funny episode actually).



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SpokenTruth said:

This, I think is where the disconnect lies.  For some reason, many men believe this is what women believe.  They don't.  Your own example of men going to war is already no longer as big of a factor because women wanted the right to fight for their country just the same.  It's been men that told them no until recently.

Women don't think that they have the market cornered on social hardships...only that the male patriarchy refuses to acknowledge and take corrective action on those that women have. When women didn't have the right to vote, who made that decision?  Men or women?  The social hardships women face are usually not of their own means.  Hence why they continue to press for more balance, equity and equality.

Also, anybody that thinks feminism ignores the plights of men doesn't understand feminism. 

 

"Your own example of men going to war is already no longer as big of a factor because women wanted the right to fight for their country just the same."

really? wanted? so why aren't they fighting to desegregate men's and women's sports?

or did you really mean to say that its not that women wanted the chance to fight alongside men in the past, its that now that the emphasis in combat has moved more to the use of machines women are coming forward

yeah... you're resorting to some type of slight of hand there, so i think i corrected it a bit there

 

"only that the male patriarchy refuses to acknowledge and take corrective action on those that women have. When women didn't have the right to vote, who made that decision?  Men or women?"

men... gloria steinem for example was a CIA agent.. she didn't rise up and push this movement, she was following orders and anyone who has done their research knows that

and come on dude isn't your narrative that men had all the power before? so... wouldn't men have to decide that they wanted women to have more rights and change society? you can't have it both ways

 

"Also, anybody that thinks feminism ignores the plights of men doesn't understand feminism. "

well as far as i know the goal feminism has always been to achieve equal rights between men and women... what are you saying the goals of feminism are from your perspective?

'and come on dude isn't your narrative that the King of France had all the power before? so...wouldn't the King of France have to decide to have himself decapitated by the revolution in oder to establish a democracy? Can't have it both ways.'

Not a single opression in history has ever ended because the opressor suddenly realized the error of their ways and was happy to then give up their privilige. It has always taken fight, uproar and bloodshed to establish a new status quo. People have been had to be forced to reconize other people rights time and time again. Just because an opressor has the overwhelming amount of power in a society, that doesn't mean strengh in numbers isn't a thing.

Also I'm not sure what you think you corrected with your first point, but you come off as borderline insulting to every female soldier in history, the way it's currently phrased.



well obviously after Rosa Parks is Rosa Reverses.....


in all seriousness anyone who describes themselves as a "Men's Right's Activist" has a lot to learn about activism.



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Ladies nights aren't illegal, nor would men's nights.

The only reason men's nights aren't a thing is because they'd be fucking empty aha.



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ArchangelMadzz said:
Ladies nights aren't illegal, nor would men's nights.

The only reason men's nights aren't a thing is because they'd be fucking empty aha.

Preferential treatment due to gender is started by certain groups and being exploited by others via lawsuits.

Personally, I dont care. But its funny that treating people as equals gets in the way of something like ladies night.

I do believe some cities have banned ladies nights at bars which gave them cheaper drinks to show up. I recall a few years back haircutting business began charging the same for men and women. This is equality, deal with it.

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Feminism went from asking for equal rights to demanding superiority and a man-hating club. Still it's a ladies night thing. Meh whatever.



Mr Puggsly said:
ArchangelMadzz said:
Ladies nights aren't illegal, nor would men's nights.

The only reason men's nights aren't a thing is because they'd be fucking empty aha.

Preferential treatment due to gender is starting to become started by certain groups and jow being exploited by others for via lawsuits.

Personally, I dont care. But its funny that treating people as equals gets in the way of something like ladies night.

I do believe some cities have banned ladies nights at bars which gave them cheaper drinks to show up. I recall a few years back haircutting business began charging the same forr men and women. This is equality, deal with it.

The haircuts thing definitely isn't a thing in the UK. Women pay a lot more, but this is because women can be in the hairdressers for hours having something done that takes years of training to do. Women here can go into men's barbers and get a trim for £5 which does happen. 

Equality just means everyone has the same legal rights, there's a market for ladies nights, there isn't for men's nights. The only people that complain wouldn't have even gone in if it wasn't a ladies night and just looking for things to be offended by. 



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ArchangelMadzz said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Preferential treatment due to gender is starting to become started by certain groups and jow being exploited by others for via lawsuits.

Personally, I dont care. But its funny that treating people as equals gets in the way of something like ladies night.

I do believe some cities have banned ladies nights at bars which gave them cheaper drinks to show up. I recall a few years back haircutting business began charging the same forr men and women. This is equality, deal with it.

The haircuts thing definitely isn't a thing in the UK. Women pay a lot more, but this is because women can be in the hairdressers for hours having something done that takes years of training to do. Women here can go into men's barbers and get a trim for £5 which does happen. 

Equality just means everyone has the same legal rights, there's a market for ladies nights, there isn't for men's nights. The only people that complain wouldn't have even gone in if it wasn't a ladies night and just looking for things to be offended by. 

Well the thing is I cant control what gender I am, per se. Unless you believe in the gender is fluid thing...

So it becomes a legal issue when women can pay less simply for something people cant control. Where is the equality in that? Your argument is valid for why business do ladies night, but its not equality. Does a man claiming to be a woman pay less as well? Or does the bar decide radomly? That could be a potential lawsuit.

Haircutting business in the US like Great Clips and Super Cuts had flat prices for basic haircuts. But it was a few dollars more for women given their styles are more complex, time consuming, etc. But what if some lesbian wanted a basic haircut for a man? Obviously you should charge the male rate. And perhaps vice versa! So they settled with a flat rate. Which made a simple mens haircut kinda expenisve.

These are modern problems in a more inclusive world.



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