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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - Nintendo Direct Thread (January 11th 2018 possibly?)

So many rumors right now. GTA 5 and red dead redemption 1 were just some of the rumors. Should be an interesting Nintendo direct.



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rumours on reddit including some about the Direct: https://www.reddit.com/r/Kappa/comments/7niilu/leakileaks_part_ii_a_statement_of_previous_ones/



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Jumpin said:

1. You don't know what a killer app is. It's not a piece of software that sells high over a long period of time on a user base, it's not a combination of software, nor is it the piece of software you personally bought the console for. A Killer app is a piece of software that millions of people find indispensable and drives massive demand for hardware. This results in huge sales spikes - such as that seen with the PSX at the release of Final Fantasy 7, Wii sports which reversed a long-term period of decline for Nintendo home consoles to record-breaking highs, to a lesser extent Breath of the Wild which drove massive sales of the Switch coming off of another longterm period of decline and a failed home console. Another example is the release of Pokemon Blue and Red which caused gameboy sales to hit annual record-breaking sales over a decade after launch. Animal Crossing New Leaf sold a lot, but there weren't millions of people flocking to purchase 3DSs as a result needing to play this game. The data shows that vast majority of 3DS purchasers at the time were clearly not buying it for New Leaf. The game sold moderately well over a long period of time. It is not what you call a killer app, but an evergreen title.

2. I never argued that there weren't any factors that drove 3DS sales, I argued that Animal Crossing New Leaf was not a killer app - big difference. Stop making strawman arguments.

3. If you think that it's a massive stretch to say that Wii Sports and Breath of the Wild were driving hardware sales, then you clearly haven't been paying attention to the market.  I really don't have much more to say to you. You're just being contrary for the purpose of being contrary.

Here's a test:

If you remove Breath of the Wild from the Switch launch, and Wii Sports from the Wii launch, and replace both with Animal Crossing New Leaf, how successful do you think each would be? Do you honestly believe that they would have enjoyed the same level of success, or anywhere near it?

1. Pretty sure the actual definition of killer app only refers to the desirability, and the only real measurement we have for this is sales. It's safe to say a game selling 10+ million is highly desirable, to the point where it's a significant reason people are buying systems in the first place. I think system seller would be the more accurate term, but whatever, it's semantics. You're again only looking at short term sales spikes, not acknowledging that a game can move systems over a long period of time. Most of Animal Crossing sales come from it's legs, so of course it's not gonna have a big spike, but that doesn't mean it's not still helping sell systems. 10+ million is simply too high a number for it to just be a game you buy when you already have the system, especially when it has one of the highest attach rates.

2. But that begs the question of what drives 3DS sales if not top selling games like New Leaf. That's not a strawman, that's a hole in your argument. You brought up attach rates yourself.

3. It's a massive to stretch to say they would do that on their own, that was in your original definition for killer app. In fact, Wii Sports and BotW can't fit that definition because they were never alone. We don't know what impact they'd have when without other great games, great hardware concepts, etc. And what is your purpose in claiming Animal Crossing isn't a killer app?

If those games are completely removed from the pipeline then of course not, just like the 3DS wouldn't do as well if New Leaf never existed, but if they still come later in a timely matter then sure. Also this doesn't make for a good test when the answer requires a crystal ball to truely know.



Dragon Quest Heroes 1 & 2 is apparently is appearing on Gamestop computers.

https://gonintendo.com/stories/298960-dragon-quest-heroes-1-2-resurfaces-in-gamestop-s-computer-syste



So someone on the resetera said the direct better be an hour and then Andre from GameXplain came int and responded with "Oh boy.."

Think this could be a hint towards the length?

https://www.resetera.com/posts/2810594/



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animegaming said:
So someone on the resetera said the direct better be an hour and then Andre from GameXplain came int and responded with "Oh boy.."

Think this could be a hint towards the length?

https://www.resetera.com/posts/2810594/

Andre very likely doesn't know anything regarding the Direct itself outside of GameXplain all believing its going to be in January.

If you tune into the podcast with Derrick, they talk about how much work they need to go through in order to put trailers and stuff up shortly after it appears in the Direct and the stress it causes by the end of each of Direct.



shoichi said:
animegaming said:
So someone on the resetera said the direct better be an hour and then Andre from GameXplain came int and responded with "Oh boy.."

Think this could be a hint towards the length?

https://www.resetera.com/posts/2810594/

Andre very likely doesn't know anything regarding the Direct itself outside of GameXplain all believing its going to be in January.

If you tune into the podcast with Derrick, they talk about how much work they need to go through in order to put trailers and stuff up shortly after it appears in the Direct and the stress it causes by the end of each of Direct.

No direct in recent times have been an hour you don't have to be an insider to know expecting an hour long direct may be being a tad unrealistic the longest NDs in recent times have been 30-40 minutes.

Andre's response is most likely just highlighting that.



Troyhend said:
Nintendo's system sellers are: Zelda, Mario, Pokémon and Smash Bros.

Animal Crossing will broaden their demo though.

Animal Crossing was bigger system seller on 3DS than Smash Bros, I would arguing that after Pokemon, Animal Crossing become biggest system seller game.



Saw this on one site.



Wyrdness said:
Saw this on one site.

If this dosent appear on the official Nintendo twitter account, then its surely fake.Something like this is easily fabricated, and to be completely honest, with all that needs to be shown, and between two systems, 30 is too little s a time.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1