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All I know of for Xbox in 2018 is some Korean MMO, Sea of Thieves and Crackdown. It seems rather weak while PS4 and Switch already have a strong year of just the games we know.



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Tmfwang said:
Expecting another cancelation this January, my money is on Crackdown 3.

No, it will come out,
Even if it performs like PUBG did, when it came out.



SegataSanshiro said:
All I know of for Xbox in 2018 is some Korean MMO, Sea of Thieves and Crackdown. It seems rather weak while PS4 and Switch already have a strong year of just the games we know.

Yep, and Nintendos projections are telling us they will be on the Xbox Ones tail by the end of next year. 



Dont read this trash from Eurogamer. Its a sad case of fanboyism.
There hasnt been a sequal announced for there AAA 1st party titles?.. umm did he not watch E3 and see Ori 2? State of Decay 2? Crackdown 3??
Haha ok what ever gets the clicks.



Azzanation said:
Dont read this trash from Eurogamer. Its a sad case of fanboyism.
There hasnt been a sequal announced for there AAA 1st party titles?.. umm did he not watch E3 and see Ori 2? State of Decay 2? Crackdown 3??
Haha ok what ever gets the clicks.

Isnt SoD2 and CD3 both made by non-first-party devs?



Predicted 15+ million lifetime-sales for God of War:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=234612&page=1

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Tmfwang said:
Azzanation said:
Dont read this trash from Eurogamer. Its a sad case of fanboyism.
There hasnt been a sequal announced for there AAA 1st party titles?.. umm did he not watch E3 and see Ori 2? State of Decay 2? Crackdown 3??
Haha ok what ever gets the clicks.

Isnt SoD2 and CD3 both made by non-first-party devs? 

Yeah, its made by second party, but Microsoft might own the IP to both. Microsoft has a history of amassing a mountain  of less than desirable IP's over generations that dont become hits. Like...far more than their competition.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
flashfire926 said:

While you are right about ps4 having way more compelling  exclusives coming up, last of us isn't coming in 2018.

Also,  like half of those are niche Japanese games solely including to boost the argument in list wars, nothing else.

In other words, If we put those niche games on the Xbox side, PS4 will still win by a clean margin.

That niche stigma that Xbox gamers give the Japanese community for JRPG's and Japanese action games is seriously whats hurting Microsofts ability to convince Japanese partners that they are in it to win.

Uh, sales of those games are what give them the niche status, not Xbox users, lol. If Dokki Dokki Jujitsui Xtreme XYZ sells 5 million copies then it’s not niche, not matter how many Xboners say it is. Also, what some people on the internets say about some games has zero relevance to companies making those games. Otherwise Call of Duty would have been scrapped a decade ago.



Tmfwang said:
Azzanation said:
Dont read this trash from Eurogamer. Its a sad case of fanboyism.
There hasnt been a sequal announced for there AAA 1st party titles?.. umm did he not watch E3 and see Ori 2? State of Decay 2? Crackdown 3??
Haha ok what ever gets the clicks.

Isnt SoD2 and CD3 both made by non-first-party devs?

There MS IPs.

S.T.A.G.E. said:
Tmfwang said:

Isnt SoD2 and CD3 both made by non-first-party devs? 

Yeah, its made by second party, but Microsoft might own the IP to both. Microsoft has a history of amassing a mountain  of less than desirable IP's over generations that dont become hits. Like...far more than their competition.

Do you even play the games instead of just throwing out sentences that do nothing but be little things.

State of Decay was a great game for the 360 and so was Crackdown 1 (Iffy about Crackdown 2) so how does this lead to MS amassing a mountain of less than desirable IPs? They earnt sequels so guess there goes your theory in a nut shell. Start playing games with good gameplay instead of focusing on the visual appeal and you might start enjoying these games more.

Heck Zelda blew me out of the park and it looks like nothing compared to what's out there. Hint for State of Decay 2.

I also like how you completely ignored Ori 2 in this conversation, is that another undesirable IP under MS's belt?



Gee. I wonder what happens when I cancel games and close studios........



flashfire926 said:
JRPGfan said:

Look at what PS4 has so far for 2018 (that you cannot play on a xbox one):

Shadow of the Colossus remake
The Last of Us Part II
Days Gone
God of War
Marvel's Spider-Man
Detroit: Become Human
Death Stranding
Dissidia Final Fantasy NT
Yakuza 6: The Song of Life
Devil May Cry HD Collection
Atelier Lydie & Suelle: The Alchemists and the Mysterious Paintings
Concrete Genie
Dragon Quest XI
Dreams
Little Witch Academia: Chamber of Time
Fist Of The North Star
Patapon 2 Remastered 
Project Phoenix
Rainbow Skies
Reverie
Shenmue III
Steins;Gate Elite
The Witch and the Hundred Knight 2
MLB The Show 18
Secret of Mana Remake
The Seven Deadly Sins: Knights of Britannia
Ni no Kuni II: Revenant Kingdom

^ im probably missing/forgetting some..... Xbox does have a "lack" of compelling games, when compaired to the PS4 atm.

While you are right about ps4 having way more compelling  exclusives coming up, last of us isn't coming in 2018.

Also,  like half of those are niche Japanese games solely including to boost the argument in list wars, nothing else.

In other words, If we put those niche games on the Xbox side, PS4 will still win by a clean margin.

Alot of sites have it listed as 2018, but I guess your right it could also be a 2019 release.

How much do these games have to sell before they start to matter to people?  Ignoreing something cuz its too "niche" doesnt seem fair.

Dragon Quest XI.... pretty sure this goes over 6m.

Ni no Kuni II: Revenant Kingdom is gonna do 2m+ easily (first game did around 2m, this is gonna be bigger).

Yakuza 5 sold ~1m+,  Yakuza 6 (jp only so far) is at ~400k+ and also likely a 1m+ game.

Shadow of the Colossus remake & Secret of Mana Remake, I could also see both do 1m+.

Little Witch Academia: Chamber of Time,  Fist Of The North Star, The Seven Deadly Sins: Knights of Britannia... ect should all do in the 500k range. They have anime's people enjoy as their base, and that should help them sell. This is like a DBZ game or One Peice game, just because their based on a anime doesnt mean no one wants to play them.

 

LudicrousSpeed said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

That niche stigma that Xbox gamers give the Japanese community for JRPG's and Japanese action games is seriously whats hurting Microsofts ability to convince Japanese partners that they are in it to win.

Uh, sales of those games are what give them the niche status, not Xbox users, lol. If Dokki Dokki Jujitsui Xtreme XYZ sells 5 million copies then it’s not niche, not matter how many Xboners say it is. Also, what some people on the internets say about some games has zero relevance to companies making those games. Otherwise Call of Duty would have been scrapped a decade ago.

People called Persona 5 "niche" and thats sold like 2.1m now.

Ni No Kuni, Yakuza, Dragon Quest, are on that list above, and was called "niche" even if their all going to be 1m+ titles.