Forums - Politics Discussion - California couple decides to start hormone therapy for their children for gender swap

jardesonbarbosa said:
I cannot really see what's wrong with that. If he's really transgender, being on hormone blockers is the best thing possible. Plus, having accepting paretings is great.

The thing is, boys and girls are pretty much the same before puberty. He can't be transgender yet.



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Sorry but at that age they don't know what they want. This is parents forcing an agenda on a child.



 

 

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jardesonbarbosa said:
I cannot really see what's wrong with that. If he's really transgender, being on hormone blockers is the best thing possible. Plus, having accepting paretings is great.

Seriously? These are little children! They cannot be transgender yet or know about the implications of such a life decision! To give some context here: The whole "gender identity" debate started with psychologist John Money* who said our gender identities are formed by society. To prove this, he conducted an experiment in which a young boy (David Reiner) who was born with deformed genitals had his penis and tested cut and modelled after female genitals - they gave him therapy, hormones, etc. Long story short, when the "girl" found out she was actually male, he/she decided to live as a man and later killed himself. That's the kind of thing we are talking about here.

Gender identity is a sexual construct and children are not sexual beings yet. They instinctively shy away from sexual things and get brutally traumatised and confused when they are forced to perform sexual acts. This was not a decision made by the child, the parents did that because they think they are "progressive". I once helped a woman who was sexually abused as a child to get into therapy, etc. You know what the worst thing was for her? That the perpetrator told her she wanted this - and she actually believed it! Because children believe anything a caregiver will tell them - their survival depends on it.

(*John Money also defended pedophilia, saying it was about "love" and had patients like David Reiner and his brother perform sexual acts with each other when they were children, to get David accustomed to his female role. When he was criticised for these things he said it was due to a "right-wing bias" in the media.)



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They should let their children be whoever they themselves want to be. Children that young aren't really different from one of another gender and they haven't developed enough yet to know who they are. I once put on my mother's high heels (or whomever's it was I don't really remember, probably someone else's because my mother never wears those but anyway) when I was like 3 or 4. Didn't mean I went on to become transgender or even gay. This sounds like they're just forcing things on those kids because of an agenda and the younger one is just influenced by whatever happens with the older one. It's probably better to just wait until those children are just a bit older and know better who they are, and let them decide (if there even turns out to be something to decide).

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Flilix said:
jardesonbarbosa said:
I cannot really see what's wrong with that. If he's really transgender, being on hormone blockers is the best thing possible. Plus, having accepting paretings is great.

The thing is, boys and girls are pretty much the same before puberty. He can't be transgender yet.

Of course he can, what do you know about that?



12-year-old boy who transitioned to female changes his mind two years later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkRjQcdNjB8



This seems wrong to me..... you cant let them make choices like this that effect the rest of their life at this age.



jardesonbarbosa said:
Flilix said:

The thing is, boys and girls are pretty much the same before puberty. He can't be transgender yet.

Of course he can, what do you know about that?

Gender (psychologically) only appears during puberty.