Exactly, this guy gets it.

TLJ will finish its third week at the top of the US box office. It will not reach the heights of TFA but will likely end up in the top 30 of all time in the US when adjusted for ticket price inflation. When not taking ticket inflation into the equation, it has already entered the top 10 of all time in the US. I don´t think Disney are that unhappy with its performance.

Hopefully JJ Abrams can end this trilogy in such a way that both those who liked this film and those who disliked it can enjoy episode IX. Maybe that is something we all can agree on in this thread no matter what side of the opinion we stand?

I enjoyed Guardians 2, but a genre classic it isn't. Besides it's "cool" to hate on Marvel movies now, didn't you get the memo? Comedy iz bad mmmmkay.

BTW I was wrong The Dark Knight is a top tier film that most fans agree was great, so makes it basically 10 years since the last good "fantasy" film. 

Except in TFA, Luke at least left a map so people could come find him. It left room for the possibility that he had retreated to this place, this ancient Jedi Temple, to learn some deeper knowledge of the force that could turn the tide of battle, or perhaps more realistically, to understand why everytime the Jedi rose to prominence, inevitably a Sith lord rises up to destroy everything. That he was trying to understand how to break the cycle. Idk, something along those lines. There's a myriad of ways one could have gone with it I'm sure. Rian Johnson though, decided to take it to an extreme, and just decide "meh.....Luke came here to be left alone and die. He didn't wanna be found." 

Moreover, JJ intentionally left a lot of leeway in his set up for the next guy coming in to play with. Did Ben Solo turn dark and burn down Luke's academy due to poor mentorship? Neglect? Was he seduced while Luke was away on some mission or other? Is the Jedi way fundamentally flawed? You could have taken it any number of ways, and Rian Johnson chose "......Luke, the guy who refused to kill Vader - who had been shown as nothing other than 100% evil to that point in the franchise - snuck into Ben's room at night, flip on his lightsaber, and in this setting, contemplate shishkebabing him." 

My point is the nerdy portion of the online "critics" community has gotten out of control. They don't like anything. 

The fact is if you really look at what the "good movies" are that they agree upon, it's a tiny list of like 10 movies, most of which are like 30 years old. 

Basically the only "good fantasy movies" from 1995 onwards is like The Matrix (1999), LOTR trilogy (2001-2003), and uh The Dark Knight (2008). Maybe an honorable mention to X-Men 2 (2003) and Logan (2016). 

At least the new Star Wars movies are on par/better than most of its modern contemporaries. I'd say the new Star Wars movies are as good as the Marvel films. 

Whereas the prequels were considerably worse than The Matrix and Raimi's Spider-Man films. Hell, the first Mummy movie felt like it captured more of the fun of the original Star Wars than the prequels did. 

Hey, I really liked that movie, too. Of course, that's the type of movie I expect from a Marvel film. A fun ride with good humor. The story also feels very important within its own universe. And going by user ratings and increase in BO takes, it seems a lot of people liked it, too. 

It's a shame Disney tried, and failed, to make TLJ GOTG Vol 3.

He just had one of the most spectacular scenes of SW history before dying and rebels escape thanks to him. He is now one with the force, he'll come back as a ghost in the next chapter, is not all over.

Of course. I want to see what it is done in ep IX.

The outcome, and the set up of it equally. Yes, it could have been interesting, if it was something along the lines of "ya. originally I came here to do so and such, so I left a map, but then eventually I realised it was all pointless/for naught/yadayadayada, so now I just wanna be left alone and die in piece." Transitioning to a character arc of redemption or return to glory or whatever. That's not what we got though

He does redeem himself basically by the end. I guess what difference does it really make if he physically shows up, Kylo has to kill him physically which is just is a retread of Han Solo dying at the end of VII.

Actually the moment Luke/Leia have there is really beautiful, Carrie Fisher adding that dialogue was great and very natural, it's one of the most touching moments in Star Wars. 

Generally speaking, having the OT characters in another trilogy was a mistake to begin with. Should've just passed on that, or killed all of them in VII to make room for an actual new story to be told.