hudsoniscool said:
Without knowing the quality of Han Solo I'll give a prediction. Obviously a Star Wars movie 6 month after the last will affect it and TLJ's reception will negatively affect it. 365 million domestic 365 million foreign is worst case scenario in my opinion. That's if the movies is horrible and other movies releasing around the time are really good. Best case scenario is rogue one numbers. It won't do more even if it's the best Star Wars ever because of TLJ. My prediction is somewhat in the middle. 425 million domestic 450 million foreign. Hope it does more if the movie is good.
Dont nut hold me 2 that though. Need to see the movie first.
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Yea, I think RO numbers are the best it can hope for. Of course, that's if the film is even good. Personally, the trailer looked pretty lackluster to me, aside from visuals. But, that's pretty much the case with TLJ. Visuals were great, everything else just fell apart. It doesn't help that the actor playing Solo just doesn't give off a Solo vibe, either in looks or personality. I know two actors who could have played that role much better, one of which has already played a young Harrison Ford in a movie. That they chose an actor who required acting lessons is beyond me.
But, I think your prediction of $730M-$875M sounds about right. If my suspicions about the quality of the film are correct, then I'm guessing it'll definitely be on the bottom of that scale. I'm sure some would try to explain it away, but it would still further prove the degradation of the franchise. Especially when you consider they spent a pretty penny on this film, paying two directors and for countless reshoots that were still going on as of a few weeks ago, and RO (another spinoff) pulled in over $1B.
xMetroid said: Solo looks more fanbase oriented so i think it will be well received just like Rogue one. Also, TLJ dropped to a similar percentage as Episode II and Episode IV so it's nothing groundbreaking really just something that happened since the first sequel but people and media use it to make a dramatisation and clickbait post like Disney is in trouble and fans won. Cause really, even though yes there is backlash, 1.33 billion is massive and you have to take into account the majority liked the movie. |
First of all, no one is making clickbait. If anything, a lot of the media has been trying to make excuses for its poor performance outside of opening weekend. Mostly because the things the movie and Kathleen Kennedy try to push, they agree with.
Second, Episode 5 dropped ~26% (TLJ will end up down by ~36%) in a time when the movie industry was changing. It was becoming less about having slow burn movies out for long periods of time (ANH was initially out for a year and a half, while ESB was out less than a year) and more about having larger draws in the first few weeks, while making room for new releases. ESB came out while this was changing, so it didn't have a huge opening, though larger than ANH, but it also didn't benefit from being out longer than a year. Adjusted for ticket price inflation, it still made ~$1.5B. TLJ has little excuse not to at least match that film's performance, given that it has the advantage of a greatly expanded WW market.
Third, the comparisons to Episode 2 is very telling. I mean, the worst performing and worst received SW film of all time, and you're going to compare TLJ to that to make it look good? And that movie saw a decline of ~37%. Hmm, so both films are going to be down by about the same amount. Very telling, indeed.
Finally, we can't say for sure that the majority of fans liked it. Personally, I'd say it's more like 50:50. Of course, that's just a guess. All we know for certain is that even if a minority of fans disliked it, it was a huge minority. Like maybe 40%. You don't underperform as poorly as this did with only 10% of the fanbase not liking it. I mean, it went from $1.65B being the lowest of predictions (with $1.7B-$1.8 being the more "realistic" ones), to it'll still end up around $1.6B, to $1.33B isn't that bad. And don't forget the decline in toy sales. There's no way to explain it away, this movie was a disappoint to many fans, as well as Disney.