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xMetroid said:

 

In what world are you living, all over the internet there is clickbait news about TLJ being a disappointed and a catastrophe. Yes TLJ is having a bigger drop but you also have to take the fact there was NO WAY a Star Wars movie is going to do as well as TFA since it was a major major comeback. Of course EpIV had a smaller drop because it was the second Star Wars. People went to see TFA as for nostalgia. You also have to take the fact we are getting a Star Wars movie every year now and that maybe some people waited for the Solo movie instead or were tired of the franchise after TFA and Rogue one. Each previous movies were released 3 years after the other, which really give people time to actually want to see a new Star Wars movie again. Now it's 2 years apart the main movies but 1 each year and another 1 6 months after TLJ. 

 

Again, Ep1 was hated by mostly everyone but for TLJ, the GP and some fans LOVED the movie. Of course the fraction that hated the movie is the most active online but it's always like that, people won't yell on every site that they liked a movie which is the case of the other way around.

Don't use the ticket inflation argument on me, we all know most franchises are down because of that compared to before when there was little to no competition and movie theatres were way more popular. And again, count in the fact we are getting 4 SW movies in 3 years and a half compare to 2 in the past. People have to make a decisions. Also the bad press the movie has received (which idk how you aren't aware of it) probably made some people choose another movie instead since it was basically everywhere on social media. 

 

Episode 2 isn't the most hated of all time at all. Ep1 is. And TLJ is an amazing movie, just not satisfying enough for a part of the fanbase, that's completely different. 

Toy sales dropping can also be a cause of the "it's impossible to be as big as TFA" effect. The marketing around a new SW in like 10 years was huge just like it was with Ep1 (which could have been bigger if the movie was better). The fans that hated the movie are (hopefully) not the reason why the toys aren't selling.

The real world.  And from all the stories I looked at, the majority of them were praising its performance and explaining away its poor reviews and legs.  Forbes, and maybe a few smaller sites, were the only ones really bringing up how poorly it was doing outside of opening weekend. 

And why use a strawman?  Who said anything about doing as well as TFA?  Of course, such a feat is not impossible, but no one was expecting it.  No, they were expecting a WW gross of $1.7B-$1.8B, which is less than TFA's $2.07B, just so you know.  Even the lower end was $1.65B.  Then, that huge dropoff came as disappointed fans didn't go watch it a second time.  Even still, analysts were predicting it would still hit ~$1.6BWW and ~$750M DBO.  Even the worst case scenario BMO suggested would have meant it hitting $1.45B.  Now, it's not even going to hit that.

Don't use the inflation argument?  Why?  Because that makes the film's performance look worse?  And no, franchise fatigue nor inflation are causing franchises to be down.  I mean tell that to Marvel, that keeps doing better with each sequel.  And they're starting to put out 3 films a year, now.  Hell, we also just had a sequel, that no one really asked for, of Jumanji that is greatly outperforming the original, even including inflation.  The point is, people will come to your movie, it just has to be good and not piss on a lot of the fans of the series.

No, Ep 2 is the most hated.  I think you're allowing your personal bias to enter your argument.  Ep 2 performed the worse and has worse ratings.  And many would disagree on how "amazing" TLJ was.  It dropped similarly to Ep2, so that should tell you something.  Also, toys sales dropping includes being lower than even RO, a spinoff.  And of course it is because of those fans the toys and other merch aren't selling as well.  If you don't like the movie, you're not going to buy toys and merch with that movie on it.