| Jranation said: Didn't Pauline voted NO? |
She did.
She also told gay Australians that if they wanted to get married they should move to a country where it's legal.


| Jranation said: Didn't Pauline voted NO? |
She did.
She also told gay Australians that if they wanted to get married they should move to a country where it's legal.


curl-6 said:
She did. She also told gay Australians that if they wanted to get married they should move to a country where it's legal. |
Don't forget the One Nation candidate who believed that Homosexuality was a Nazi mind control scheme.
She also made the statement that she would back and support whatever Australia decided. She lied.
Also. Didn't Pauline abstain? I know she voted no in the actual survey.
Also, for those outside of Aus. - Pauline Hanson is the female, red-headed version of Donald Trump. - A little crazier and ignorant though.

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merman said:
Are you serious... do you know that women under 30 and women over 50 have the highest rate of HIV contraction? Well over Gay men? This comment is disgusting and the user should be permanently banned. |
I'm curious where youre getting your stats because Im fairly certain theyre wrong. Not reflective of US atleast. Also not sure why you would respond with statistics.
More importantly, I imagine STD rates are lower among married people... But maybe Im wrong.
On topic: Surprising it already wasnt legal. While others are surprised US wasnt the last hold out.
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She did. She also told gay Australians that if they wanted to get married they should move to a country where it's legal. |
ROFL - Thats Pauline ! She's VERY reliable like that. An endless fountain of prejudice bless her :)
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Locknuts said:
Well that's just an assumption on your part. I think people should be treated as equals and that marriage as an institution should be taken away from government control. Every couple should be able to register themselves as a couple with the government (gay or straight) but that marriage as an institution should only be performed by religious institutions. Then everyone's happy. |
So then you'd deny marriage to atheists? Marriage didn't become a scarament in the christian church until after 1000 AD. So why give churches control over secular personal relationships?
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| Locknuts said: Well that's just an assumption on your part. |
Sorry. I somehow missed your reply.
Also. That is not an assumption on my part.
You did state that you do not believe that all Australians should be seen and treated as equals in the eyes of the law as that is how you voted by ticking "no" on the survey. That's the fact, no amount of spin you try changes that inherent fact.
| Locknuts said: I think people should be treated as equals and that marriage as an institution should be taken away from government control. Every couple should be able to register themselves as a couple with the government (gay or straight) but that marriage as an institution should only be performed by religious institutions. Then everyone's happy. |
So. What about Atheists? They should forgo the right to marry? Having religions control marriage is not going to make Atheists happy, which is sizable demographic in Australia. (29.6% or 7.1 million Australians at the last census and GROWING, they are the majority.)
http://www.news.com.au/national/no-religion-tops-religion-question-in-census/news-story/a3b45e6b2e35df695932a83535078f51
The fact is marriage is an institution embedded in Australian law, what you think it "should" be is ultimately irrelevant, we live in the real world, not baseless hypotheticals and what-ifs.
| Locknuts said: Well it comes down to me being naturally conservative. I like to keep things the way they are if they aren't totally broken. |
Doesn't matter if you are conservative or progressive.
The fact is... Millions of conservatives came out and voted yes. - And same-sex marriage was even passed whilst a conservative Government was in power.
| Locknuts said: I see marriage as an institution rather than a legal right for citizens. You simply need to qualify to join in. |
Doesn't matter how you see it. Doesn't change what it fundamentally is. A legal construct embedded in legislative law. Aka. The Marriage Act.
And all Australians should be seen and treated as equals in the eyes of the law.
| Locknuts said: I have nothing against gays as I don't believe homosexuality is immoral. |
No one said you did have anything against Homosexuals.
In the end, you were given the right to vote no and I respect that. - I don't have to respect your reasoning though which is bullshit.
| Locknuts said: I also feel that marriage should be taken from government control and given back to the church. Then everyone could be treated equally under the law and the religious people would be happy too. The government has too much power over such things (and most things generally). |
That contradicts your prior statement that you are conservative and (I quote) "I like to keep things the way they are if they aren't totally broken."
Essentially you wish to change the narrative to fit in with your own agenda.
Remember, marriage predates religion, marriage has always been up to the state in Australia, thus you are advocating change.
niallyb said:
ROFL - Thats Pauline ! She's VERY reliable like that. An endless fountain of prejudice bless her :) |
Her support seems to have imploded to if the Queensland Election was a gauge of anything.
Malcolm Roberts (An idiot.) also lost in what should have been an easy win in the seat he was running for. So that is a good thing.
One thing I hate more than an idiot... Is an idiot who denies science and that was Malcolm Roberts in a bag.
I am interested to see how the other state and federal elections go over the next few years... We may see a swing over to the left, not sure how I feel about that, there are a ton of crazies over there... Just like the far right.

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Pemalite said:
Sorry. I somehow missed your reply.
So. What about Atheists? They should forgo the right to marry? Having religions control marriage is not going to make Atheists happy, which is sizable demographic in Australia. (29.6% or 7.1 million Australians at the last census and GROWING, they are the majority.)
Doesn't matter if you are conservative or progressive.
Doesn't matter how you see it. Doesn't change what it fundamentally is. A legal construct embedded in legislative law. Aka. The Marriage Act.
No one said you did have anything against Homosexuals.
That contradicts your prior statement that you are conservative and (I quote) "I like to keep things the way they are if they aren't totally broken." |
Wow ok so I should be able to clear this up pretty quickly: I don't want the government involved in my marriage and I don't want to give them any more power than they already have. A major part of what makes me conservative is that I want small government. I believe that the government is already so big and powerful that our current system is unsustainable and thus: broken.
Any opportunity to give the government more power than the unsustainable amount they already have will be met with a 'no' vote from me. Whether it's involving them further with people's relationships or increasing handouts, it's always a no until the government is small enough.
niallyb said:
So then you'd deny marriage to atheists? Marriage didn't become a scarament in the christian church until after 1000 AD. So why give churches control over secular personal relationships? |
Well I wouldn't. That would be up to religious leaders. Not necessarily Christian ones either, any religion that has traditionally practiced marriages should be allowed to continue. It would have no bearing on their legal status of being in a Union. It would be a separation of Church and state.


| Locknuts said: Wow ok so I should be able to clear this up pretty quickly: I don't want the government involved in my marriage and I don't want to give them any more power than they already have. A major part of what makes me conservative is that I want small government. I believe that the government is already so big and powerful that our current system is unsustainable and thus: broken. Any opportunity to give the government more power than the unsustainable amount they already have will be met with a 'no' vote from me. Whether it's involving them further with people's relationships or increasing handouts, it's always a no until the government is small enough. |
Changing the entire legal and legislative structure for marriage because you don't agree with it... Is not "Conservative" by it's very definition as you are advocating change from a precedent that has already existed for hundreds of years and works fine as it is.
Besides... Australia is a secular nation, religion should have less power and influence over aspects of Australia, not more.
Well. Not until they can actually prove their particular deity exists anyway... And after thousands of years, that hasn't occurred.
| Ka-pi96 said: You have those in Australia? huh, I thought they were exclusive to America. |
They most certainly do exist in Australia.
Anti-Vaxxers, Climate-Change Deniers... You think it, we have it.

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Congrats to gay Australians. Anybody should be able to get married if they want to within reason.
*Had to do an edit after I saw someone talking about incest.
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