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Alkibiádēs said:
Lawlight said:

And the rest of the world in regions like Oceania, LATAM and the MEA.

Yeah, those 20k sales per week will really make the difference. /s

The PS4 sold 11.70M in rest of the world so far. Still think that doesn't make a difference?



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Azelover said:

It's not a matter of home consoles not mattering in Japan anymore, like it's a definite conclusion, it's not necessarily true.

Improving the graphics isn't sufficient for consoles anymore, so people moved to portables because they're more convenient. And this trend is going to catch up to the rest of the world, mark my words.

If Sony had come up with a concept that attracted people to the console experience, they'd buy consoles again. And by that I don't mean secondary experimental shit, like PSVR and Move. Instead the basic console has to present intrinsic value for today's times. I hate to break to you, but most people don't care as much about the visuals anymore. You'll see next generation, take a seat.

The answer isn't just making a handheld and expecting to break Nintendo's turf from the Game & Watch to today, believe me that is hopeless. They can however re-invent the value of their home consoles and return to huge popularity.

I KNOW they are not gonna do that however. The global success of the PS4 will blind them. They're gonna take a tumble again for the next cycle. But look no further than the PS4Pro, people don't care. It's not gonna work.

People in the west have already moved to portables - it's called mobile.

Also, why would they change what's been working for them for 4 generations to appeal to a country where console sales are declining? And re-invent the value of their home console - what does that even mean? Like turn the PS5 into a hentai VR machine?



Kerotan said:
mysteryman said:

But that would be focusing on one country. Isn't Sony is a global phenomenon? Make up your mind.

 

Interestingly Japan's percentage of Sony home console sales has been steadily decreasing since the PS1 (18% down to 8%). While US and Europe have remained steady, and the rest of the world showing growth. That would indicate that Japan isn't a priority to Sony, no?

Yeah so Japan isn't important to Sony despite have the highest number of consoles sold in a country bar the USA. It's definitely important to them especially when you consider Japanese software sells a lot in the west and Asia as well as moving consoles.

 

All countries are relevant and important to Sony so no my mind has been made up. This is why it dominates the globe. They take the whole planet as serious as possible. 

Unimportant != Less important. You're pivoting again

Japan is a major market, and therefore of importance. However, the percentage of sales have been steadily decreasing with each successive Sony home console. Why aren't Sony doing anything to counter this?



mysteryman said:
Kerotan said:

Yeah so Japan isn't important to Sony despite have the highest number of consoles sold in a country bar the USA. It's definitely important to them especially when you consider Japanese software sells a lot in the west and Asia as well as moving consoles.

 

All countries are relevant and important to Sony so no my mind has been made up. This is why it dominates the globe. They take the whole planet as serious as possible. 

Unimportant != Less important. You're pivoting again

Japan is a major market, and therefore of importance. However, the percentage of sales have been steadily decreasing with each successive Sony home console. Why aren't Sony doing anything to counter this?

You're really grasping at straws trying to catch me out. I've always maintained Japan was important and never said they focus in it more then the other major markets. 



Kerotan said:
mysteryman said:

Unimportant != Less important. You're pivoting again

Japan is a major market, and therefore of importance. However, the percentage of sales have been steadily decreasing with each successive Sony home console. Why aren't Sony doing anything to counter this?

You're really grasping at straws trying to catch me out. I've always maintained Japan was important and never said they focus in it more then the other major markets. 

Then who said it was not important that made you made this thread? 



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Kerotan said:
mysteryman said:

Unimportant != Less important. You're pivoting again

Japan is a major market, and therefore of importance. However, the percentage of sales have been steadily decreasing with each successive Sony home console. Why aren't Sony doing anything to counter this?

You're really grasping at straws trying to catch me out. I've always maintained Japan was important and never said they focus in it more then the other major markets. 

You misunderstand. It was I speaking of less importance, rather than no importance. 

Japan is an important market. Even Microsoft try to maintain the semblance of a presence there. 

But the PS4 isn't Sony showing any particular interest in the Japanese demographic and the exodus of their home console users. 



Lawlight said:
Miyamotoo said:

You don't make any sense, nobody said that Japan alone is global, but you can't say global without Japan market (strongest gaming market after US and Europe).

That’s not how it works. Global does not mean it has to win in every single country.

Doesn't need evre single country, but at least evre biggest market for global domination.



Jranation said:
Kerotan said:

You're really grasping at straws trying to catch me out. I've always maintained Japan was important and never said they focus in it more then the other major markets. 

Then who said it was not important that made you made this thread? 

A number of people said it. Off the top of my head lawlight said Japan wasn't a priority and miyamotoo said it wasn't that important or relevant. They are entitled to think that but I disagree. 

mysteryman said:
Kerotan said:

You're really grasping at straws trying to catch me out. I've always maintained Japan was important and never said they focus in it more then the other major markets. 

You misunderstand. It was I speaking of less importance, rather than no importance. 

Japan is an important market. Even Microsoft try to maintain the semblance of a presence there. 

But the PS4 isn't Sony showing any particular interest in the Japanese demographic and the exodus of their home console users. 

Yeah of course it isn't as important as it used to be but it's still more important then smaller markets like the UK, France etc. I never argued it was more important then the ps2 days for example but I definitely think it's either equally as important to last gen or even more so considering they are selling more consoles so far and maybe a much bigger profit. Well that's not hard when ps3 had made a big loss at this point last gen. 

Miyamotoo said:
Lawlight said:

That’s not how it works. Global does not mean it has to win in every single country.

Doesn't need evre single country, but at least evre biggest market for global domination.

No it need a to dominate the globe for global domination which it's doing. Pretty self explanatory.



Kerotan said:

Miyamotoo said:

Doesn't need evre single country, but at least evre biggest market for global domination.

No it need a to dominate the globe for global domination which it's doing. Pretty self explanatory.

Lol, its totally opposite, it's pretty self explanatory that it actually that needs to dominate the globe for global domination, dominate the globe = global domination.



Miyamotoo said:
Lawlight said:

That’s not how it works. Global does not mean it has to win in every single country.

Doesn't need evre single country, but at least evre biggest market for global domination.

Even if the PS4 is second or third in every country in the world, if it is leading worldwide then it is the global leader.