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Cerebralbore101 on 01 December 2017
OTBWY said:
Been seeing comments on YT and elsewhere: It seems that 84-85 as a score means a game is shit now. Let's remember that when the next Sony/Xbox game get a similar score.

In this day and age anything with 80 or higher is pretty much a must own game. Back in the day it was both harder to get above the 84/100 mark, and easier to get to the 95/100 mark. It's easy to get to 8/10 now, because too many sites hand out high scores like candy. It's hard to get to 95/100 now because there's always a troll review or two. We've really lost a lot of good review outlets over the years, and the few remaining good ones are crowded out by the mediocre ones on Metacritic. 

JRPGs have it the worst, because a lot of sites will hire anybody with a passing interest in video games to write a review. The end result is that somebody that only plays shooters reviews a JRPG and hands out a terrible score. Yeah, I get it your website's audience doesn't like JRPGs and you have to communicate to them whether or not they would like the game. But maybe if your audience isn't interested in JRPGs then you shouldn't cover them at all? 



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Nautilus on 01 December 2017
Nem said:
Nautilus said:

Well, I am of the opinion that XC 2 looks and feels better than X, and thus should get a higher score.I wont say for certain simply because I havent played the game yet, but if it anything like the first XC, then I will like it more.

No need to trash on X. They are all good games, but i do prefer Xenoblade X in many ways. Especially the style, the setting and skells ofc. They add a whole new layer to the game. But i like both styles. I actually like the idea of them beeing separate series.

Im not trashing it.Im just saying that I prefer the more story focused XC.X is a great game, XC is simply better.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

Nautilus on 01 December 2017
bigtakilla said:
Nautilus said:

Well, I am of the opinion that XC 2 looks and feels better than X, and thus should get a higher score.I wont say for certain simply because I havent played the game yet, but if it anything like the first XC, then I will like it more.

So because of your opinion it deserves a higher score? Sounds fair.

It would be a good first step to reviewers to make.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

Nautilus on 01 December 2017
last92 said:
spemanig said:
I'm extremely uncomfortable with just how easily "too Japanese" or "more Japanese than the other" are being thrown around, as if to be Japanese is to carry a negative connotation, or as if the more specific criticisms people want to address are somehow intrinsic to Japanese culture. A lot of unknowingly racist statements are being thrown around as if it's acceptable. Replace the word "Japanese" with "black," and join me in my discomfort.

I don't think this is about being "too japanese". I love anime, manga and japanese stuff, but the problem here is that the character design sucks. When reviewers say that it's "too japanese" they probably mean "bad quality, generic anime". I think that anyone slightly knowledgeable about animation and character design will tell you that xc2 characters are awful.

Btw, I'm sure this has been mentioned already, but Persona 5 is "very japanese" and it still got amazing scores.

 

Nautilus said: 

Well, I am of the opinion that XC 2 looks and feels better than X, and thus should get a higher score.I wont say for certain simply because I havent played the game yet, but if it anything like the first XC, then I will like it more.

I am of the opinion that XCX was the most overrated game of the last generation. And I'm a big fan of XC on Wii. I still don't get how they managed to take everything that made XC so good and throw it away while exacerbating the very few negative things. The only good thing in XCX was Mira imho.

X is a great game.The problem with it is that the overall story and narrative side of it suffered alot.Thats why I think that the game is inferior.But that dosent mean that the game is bad.Its great actually, my favorite game on the Wii U actually.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

OTBWY on 01 December 2017

I just got my Collector's Edition and Xenoblade Pro Controller. They are pure sex.

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xl-klaudkil on 01 December 2017

Been playing this game since yesterday now 19 hours into it i have to say besides persona5 this is the best jrpg this gen, what a fantastic game.

Little background , i pretty much have played all the ps3 and ps4 jrpgs.

Yes the graphics and framerate are not great for today's standards but the sense of scope and fantasy is just sublime! ( the first big world your in omg amazing!)

Its story is truly interesting and the combat system is fun to play.

Huge amount of customization and side quest.

Voice acting absolutely SUCKS! But ow well.

Thr music.... Omg the music.

Final fantasy and tales of step away a new King has arrived.



 

My youtube gaming page.

http://www.youtube.com/user/klaudkil

Frogger on 01 December 2017
Barkley said:
spemanig said:
I'm extremely uncomfortable with just how easily "too Japanese" or "more Japanese than the other" are being thrown around, as if to be Japanese is to carry a negative connotation, or as if the more specific criticisms people want to address are somehow intrinsic to Japanese culture. A lot of unknowingly racist statements are being thrown around as if it's acceptable. Replace the word "Japanese" with "black," and join me in my discomfort.

You're allowed to dislike tropes, mechanics and styles that are generally unique to a Japanese developed game. Don't try and turn this into a "racist" thing.

It is, though. Again, substitute Japanese with black or white. If you have problems with tropes, mechanics, or styles, talk about it in those terms. No one talks about vast open world filled with busy work and say "wow, this game is way too European."

Nautilus said:
spemanig said:
I'm extremely uncomfortable with just how easily "too Japanese" or "more Japanese than the other" are being thrown around, as if to be Japanese is to carry a negative connotation, or as if the more specific criticisms people want to address are somehow intrinsic to Japanese culture. A lot of unknowingly racist statements are being thrown around as if it's acceptable. Replace the word "Japanese" with "black," and join me in my discomfort.

What are you blabbing about?One has nothing to do with the other.

Yes, they do.

last92 said:
spemanig said:
I'm extremely uncomfortable with just how easily "too Japanese" or "more Japanese than the other" are being thrown around, as if to be Japanese is to carry a negative connotation, or as if the more specific criticisms people want to address are somehow intrinsic to Japanese culture. A lot of unknowingly racist statements are being thrown around as if it's acceptable. Replace the word "Japanese" with "black," and join me in my discomfort.

I don't think this is about being "too japanese". I love anime, manga and japanese stuff, but the problem here is that the character design sucks. When reviewers say that it's "too japanese" they probably mean "bad quality, generic anime". I think that anyone slightly knowledgeable about animation and character design will tell you that xc2 characters are awful.

Btw, I'm sure this has been mentioned already, but Persona 5 is "very japanese" and it still got amazing scores.

Then they should say that, because that's the difference between making a racially ignorant comment and making a substantiated criticism.

This is separate, because I was only talking about the disparaging Japanese comments, but I don't understand the criticism of the art style when the same people like the art in Persona. They are both generic bubblegum anime/manga art styles. I don't like the art direction that much either, but if I can stomach the anime-ification of Persona after they ditched Kaneko who didn't have a generic style in P3, anyone should be able to deal with this which isn't remotely as drastic a shift. It's fine, and not much worse than other popular games in this genre.



curl-6 on 01 December 2017
last92 said:

I am of the opinion that XCX was the most overrated game of the last generation. And I'm a big fan of XC on Wii. I still don't get how they managed to take everything that made XC so good and throw it away while exacerbating the very few negative things. The only good thing in XCX was Mira imho.

While I wouldn't go that far, I too was disappointed by XCX. Mira was an amazing world to explore, but the lacked most of what made me love Xenoblade 1, most notably a strong plot and an awesome OST.

xl-klaudkil said:

Yes the graphics and framerate are not great for today's standards but the sense of scope and fantasy is just sublime! ( the first big world your in omg amazing!)

Granted I'm only in chapter 2 but so far the framerate seems par for the course for a game of "today's standards." Heck, I can think of a lot of games of considerably  bigger budget that run worse.

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Goodnightmoon on 01 December 2017
curl-6 said:
last92 said:

I am of the opinion that XCX was the most overrated game of the last generation. And I'm a big fan of XC on Wii. I still don't get how they managed to take everything that made XC so good and throw it away while exacerbating the very few negative things. The only good thing in XCX was Mira imho.

While I wouldn't go that far, I too was disappointed by XCX. Mira was an amazing world to explore, but the lacked most of what made me love Xenoblade 1, most notably a strong plot and an awesome OST.

xl-klaudkil said:

Yes the graphics and framerate are not great for today's standards but the sense of scope and fantasy is just sublime! ( the first big world your in omg amazing!)

Granted I'm only in chapter 2 but so far the framerate seems par for the course for a game of "today's standards." Heck, I can think of a lot of games of considerably  bigger budget that run worse.

Only a year you were praising XCX to deaht and calling it one of your favourites (if not your favourite) Wiiu game, what's this sudden change of opinion?

Personally I think it was flawed, but it has so much virtues that the overall experience was quite epic and totally worth it.



Nautilus on 01 December 2017
spemanig said:
Nautilus said:

What are you blabbing about?One has nothing to do with the other.

Yes, they do.

No they dont.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1