Forza 7 took much longer to make. It’s essentially just an upgraded (even downgraded in parts) Forza 5. so they practically started production after Forza 4. It even uses car models from Horizon and all the DLCs. There is only ONE new track in it.

GTS decided to go full reset. And I applaud them for that. It’s the right way to go for the franchise. And it’s becoming more serious and less casual in the process, exactly the opposite of Forza.

@DonFerrari - So you want to live off the fact PD is a smaller company than Turn 10 and use that as an excuse for a incomplete game and sold at full price? If thats the case than GTS should be half price since it is less than half the game of its main competitor. Or are you paying full price for those amazing Pit Stops you were mentioning in your own thread when downing FM7? Just like i told you before, i prefer content over Pit Stops, something the majority seem to agree on.

@Errorist76 - FM5 was built from the ground up just like GTS was. You also have it the other way around. Turn 10 make the cars and PlayGround Games take them and use them into there Horizon Series. FH4 will take all the cars from FM7 and its a continued routine, there all freshly made on XB1 hardware basically no difference to what GTS is doing.

Not disagreeing with you about the car porn, yet no limits multiplayer is still there. The lobby system is perfectly intact from GT5 and GT6 and has only been expanded upon with more customization options.

Deep single player offering is indeed a lot less deep. GT5 had procedurally generated rally stages and a track editor next to driving in changing light and weather conditions. GT6 ditched the track editor and endurance races. GTS so far is just racing in static conditions. Apart from the one wet night stadium track I've only seen dry conditions in daylight.

I've mixed feelings aout the whole thing. Driving feels better than ever, it's just as addictive as before, and it's the best looking racing game in HDR. The VR  offering however is a joke. Sony is currently bundling GT Sport with PSVR in Europe, are they idiots? Here's your brand new VR headset, but wait, first you must play on the screen to unlock more than the 3 starter tracks and starter car so you can tour around the tracks in VR with zero gameplay. Great advertisement for VR.

The campaign is fun so far, yet I'm already at 50% and haven't even been to the car showroom as the game is giving you so many cars I don't even want to look at the garage. There's no feeling of ownership over all those random cars. There's no feeling of progression either, one stage you're in a race car, the next in something that can hardly get up the hill and won't turn corners.

GT Sport is frustratingly good. And that's not meant as a compliment. I'm still itching to play more, just wondering what I'll do after finishing the campaign. Tour around in VR once it's all unlocked, see if multiplayer can get me interested, or go back to VR until they add more content.

The always online will piss a lot of people... so you played on shrooms? kkk... well when I enable HDR and use netflix most content was on a very strange coloring and most times too bleached and to much light.

There IS a huge difference in detail. You’d know if you had played the game. The attention to detail PD are bringing to the table isn’t matched by any competitor. 

My argument still stands. F5 was kinda barren for the same reason. PD just did GT6 when T10 was already working on F5 for years.

And no, to me and many others, quality beats quantity any day of the week.

@DonFerrari - So you want to live off the fact PD is a smaller company than Turn 10 and use that as an excuse for a incomplete game and sold at full price? If thats the case than GTS should be half price since it is less than half the game of its main competitor. Or are you paying full price for those amazing Pit Stops you were mentioning in your own thread when downing FM7? Just like i told you before, i prefer content over Pit Stops, something the majority seem to agree on.

@Errorist76 - FM5 was built from the ground up just like GTS was. You also have it the other way around. Turn 10 make the cars and PlayGround Games take them and use them into there Horizon Series. FH4 will take all the cars from FM7 and its a continued routine, there all freshly made on XB1 hardware basically no difference to what GTS is doing.

A long time ago, it enhances.distorts color, as wat happens when you enable deep color on normal content.
DS9 is a pretty dark and muted show color wise so it wasn't that distored. People did look like they aged a lot due to the high contrast in their faces.
Too much light indeed, I felt like I needed sunglasses every time the bright panel lighting was in view!

Btw people forget that GT Sport is made for bt.2020 color space. All the art had to be redone as all the existing art was made for rec.709 The game is displaying colors I've never seen come out of a tv set before. HZD dawn looks great too with HDR but the color difference with GT Sport is noticeable. I never thought I would say stuff like this: When you get a new random car, that color red from the selector is damn sexy. I don't care about the car, just show me that color again lol.

GT Sport is really future proof with HDR upto 10k nits and full bt.2020 support. My tv can handle max 5 on the logarithmic scale setting from 1 to 10, and displays 96% of dci-p3 color space which is still a subsection of bt.2020 (76% max). GT Sport is ready for the next generation of tvs. The question is, will the cost prove too much and will the franchise get irrevocably damaged by this reset for what currently still is a niche of niche.

Wow you act as if there competition falls way behind. But seems graphics are too important to some people. FM7 and PC2 are amazing games. They are filled with content and are worth there price tags. GTS isnt and thats the problem. You can continue to defend it thats fine. They will continue to offer you these type of games. 

Maybe you should read the IGN Review

http://au.ign.com/articles/2017/10/17/gran-turismo-sport-review

At this rate, FM5 > GTS and thats disapointing after 4 years of developement.

Nope I don't want to live out of anything. I'm just pointing that having less staff explain why they take a longer time. You don't even like simulation racing so stop pretending. I could care less about the pitstops, the discussion was about it being advertised and not implemented. What portion of GTS was advertised and not filled?

FM5 came with similar quantity to GTS while GT6 had a lot more, can you prove you criticized FM5?

You didn't understand my joke. I didn't took for real that you had been playing under shrooms, but thanks for confirming you were =p.

Well I have watched MadMen with HDR enabled and that was trying to put brightness to minimum it was still bleaking light.

On the color you seem right on the hard work to make they show right. Ars technica evaluation of 4KHDR only, pointed that he never saw so pleasant colors in any game ever. And commented on the Rosso Corsa of Ferrari and the strange yellow/lemon of a Toyota car that wouldn't really show right outside of GTS on HDR TV because games like Forza weren't fully commited to HDR.

So you mean the game isn't filled with content to justify you purchase right? Have you bought GT5 and GT6?

Read the ign review and I'm pleasently suprised as their previous review I saw was non-professional, they choose someone that like simulation and is giving a fair analysis to his liking and dislikes. But Errorist was going by the reviews of Eurogamer, Ars Technica, Red Bull, Racing magazine, and similar that looks objectively for what he cares not at reviews that look for what they think is important and people that doesn't even like simulation like you. Come again on how FH is simulator.

I dont have to like Simulations to comment about them, unless theres a forum rule that stats this let me know.

FM5 was barebones and deserved its reviews it got. FM7 is still a great game and earns its full price.

Errorist picks and chooses his reviews that suits him.. sounds legit. I am guessing there all the top 5 review scores.. i wouldnt be suprised.

You also laughed and mad fun of FM7 pitstops and yet you are willing to except a half baked game because PD is half the size of Turn 10 yet deserves your full dollar. 

Love your logic.