Lmao @ the fire emblem warriors reviews on amazon

one is an in depth review, the other is '1/5 no ikr or roy'... two kinds of fire emblem fans

No, Europe will stop that from happening

How much do you think PS4 will sell in Europe?

up to 45m

Oh, that low? That doesn't rule out Switch beating PS4 worldwide, though.

PS4:
NA: 40M
EUR: 45M
JPN: 13M
RoW: 22M
WW: 120M

Switch:
NA: 45M (Wii, 2nd)
EUR: 34M (Wii, 3rd)
JPN: 32M (GB, 2nd)
RoW: 10M (Wii, 2nd)
WW: 121M

Multiple Nintendo consoles have reached the required numbers in all regions. It's not impossible, just unlikely.

I think it will be pretty close in the end, certainly closer than I thought initially. I think your predictions might be slightly too high for NA and EU, but certainly Japan is going to be a big equalizer for the Switch

The Switch 'might' catch up with the XB1 but there's absolutely no way whatsoever it will catch up with the PS4 while it's still the current gen console. It might stand a chance of getting close once the PS5 has been on the market for a couple of years and people stop buying the PS4 in the numbers they are.

What I'm seeing here is a phenomenon I used to witness in a friend of mine. He would look at the PS3 numbers and constantly argue VGC is lying (couldn't entirely disagree at the time) about the sales numbers. What he was doing is looking at the sales of the PS3 and forgetting the sales of the 360. So he'd see 300k and then add that to the current figures, not realising that the 360 had also sold 200k. It was a jump of 100k but he could never compute. Another thing people do is to look at regions instead of WW sales. This is why lots of XB1 owners still can't grasp why the PS4 has outsold the XB1 by such a margin. They know the US is the biggest market for the XB1 and so they only use the US sales as an indicator for how 'well' it's selling in comparison to the PS4.

People are unwittingly doing the same here with the Switch. It won't catch the PS4 unless the PS4 stops selling and even then you can't 'assume' the Switch is going to continue to sell as it is.

If Nintendos plans for China come into fruition then WW numbers may well be much higher than just 10M for the Switch and put it on par with the PS4 there too. Europe will be counterbalanced by US and Japan, so there's actually a good chance that this will be at least an interesting race.

With catch up I always either mean their lifetime numbers or launch aligned, depending on context. Here, it's pretty clear that we're all talking about their potential lifetime numbers when talking about catching up, and we broke it down to regions in the predictions while still thinking about the WW numbers.

We can grasp that the Switch is selling very differently depending on the region, but from what I could see is that NA and Japan counterbalance the Switch' deficit in europe enough to nullify that advantage of the PS4 more or less.

And yeah, we don't know if the Switch will continue to sell so well or not. But neither is the PS4, which still could drop off like the Wii did (highly unlikely, I know, but not impossible) or just continue to sell well for the next 5 years. As much as anything is possible with the Switch, and the same holds true for the PS4, too.

Sorry, I should have clarified it was just a general overview of what I'm seeing on forums and on Youtube vids. It was inspired by the conversation above but not directly related to it. My fault.