Kerotan said:
Miyamotoo said:
I am not so sure if it would have around $100 higher price point, again, 3DS start selling after price cut to $170.
I agree that Switch is selling because hole concept of hybrid, not just because it's handheld side, but that doesn't mean that sales need to be compared to handheld + console sales, Switch is still one device and one platform.
Yes, Switch is real first hybrid console.
I don't pretend anything, but you can keep ignoring facts, fact is that Switch has price point of Nintendo home console, not handheld, thats clear fact. Only 3DS had launch price point of $250 and that was too much for handheld and 3DS didnt sell at that price point, so Nintendo need to have very fast huge price cut in order that 3DS start selling. At end of day, Switch is hybrid and has pretty good price for hybrid device that act like real home console and real handheld with two controllers for multiplayer out of box, but $300 for only handheld device would be too much in any case and despite power, and such a device wouldn't sell nearly as Switch is selling currently or would be nearly popular like it is.
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You keep ignoring a key point. If 3DS was a very powerful handheld and not a weak handheld it could have sold much better at launch. And if they never had a Wii U and all its games went to the more powerful 3DS instead it would sell much better. if it had a home console mode like the Switch, again it would sell better.
Switch is one device but it's actually 2 platforms. portable + home. It's replacing the Wii U and 3DS so of course it should be compared to both. It will get both platforms games. Only comparing to one is not a fair comparison.
And for your last point, fact is Switch ain't just a handheld or a home console. It doesn't need to be priced as either. It's priced as a hybrid and for consumers today it's price is very fair and not expensive.
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No, actually you are again ignoring facts, power is not what selling Nintendo hardware, and reason why 3DS didnt sold at launch because it has $250 price point, and bigger power usually means bigger price point and Nintendo always had more affordable price point of their hardware. Vita was way more powerful than 3DS and failed. Its hard to talk what would be if Wii U didn't exist, or if 3DS would stronger and much more expensive, but fact is that 3DS needed huge price cut to $170 to start selling.
Again you are wrong, depite point its one unifeded platform, Switch is still one platform not two platforms. Wii U and 3DS are two totally different platforms, they are two totally different consoles, two totally different price points, they had two different versions and revisons (well Wii U didnt becuse failed and had shorter life, but 3DS had 6 of them), they had two lineups of games, they had two separate brands, they had two two separates marketing...but despite fact that Switch is a hybrid device, it will have just one all those things so definatly its not best comparision Wii U + 3DS. Especially because Switch doesn't need to have sales of 3DS + Wii U to be considered for success, Switch can easily sell much less and yet to bring Nintendo much bigger profit, beacuse Switch is selling from launch with profit compared to Wii U and 3DS.
Switch doesn't have price point of handheld and has price point similar like Nintendo home console and thats fact, but it doesn't need to have price point like either or it can have price point like either, it doesn't really matters, it has price like it is and I agree that $300 for Switch and value Switch offers is pretty good.