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Jaicee said:
gergroy said:
I'm not a liberal or a conservative, my views tend to be pretty middle of the road. However, I still get annoyed quite often here in Utah at how conservative the local government is. I have to pretty much ignore local politics. I was proud of the fact that we were a battleground state last election with a strong revulsion for trump here (even if he ended up winning...)

Trump carried Utah by a margin of 18 percentage points. I'm not sure that that actually makes Utah a "battleground state". ;)

It had a strong third party showing which caused the polls to be very close.  So we were labeled as a battleground state by pollsters.  Still, 18 points is weakest margin of victory for a republican presidential candidate that I can remember.  



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Texas is like many states these days where it consists of deep blue Democrat / leftist urban enclaves and proponents of big & centralized government amidst a red sea of the more suburban / rural set of the more conservative / small government mindset. Colorado is the same way... a bunch of transplants from the coastal states or mid-western cities that have already taxed their citizens to death, and have now moved on looking for a new host.

The Carolinas are trending this way as well, as more and more boomers from the northeastern states look to retire down there and take advantage of the low taxes and much more affordable home prices, while their millennial offspring start raising their own families there.



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You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

gergroy said:
Jaicee said:

Trump carried Utah by a margin of 18 percentage points. I'm not sure that that actually makes Utah a "battleground state". ;)

It had a strong third party showing which caused the polls to be very close.  So we were labeled as a battleground state by pollsters.  Still, 18 points is weakest margin of victory for a republican presidential candidate that I can remember.  

1992 was closer (though Ross Perot was running nationwide as a third party that year).



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Jaicee said:
TH3-D0S3R said:
I will say this.

If you say one side is reasonable when the other is chaotic, it's clear there's a skewed bias in the author's writing. It shows a clear bias against one end of the spectrum, enabling the far Right (what we saw in Charlottesville) to go along with their motives. I highly disagree with what happened there, but in this process of demonizing them your only enabling them to commit more violence while looking foolish in the process.

Instead of demonizing one end of the spectrum resulting in both sides committing acts of violence against each other, why can't we just try to get along?

I'm tired of rightists blaming leftists and most particularly me personally for the fact that a neo-Nazi hit 34 people with his car at 40 miles per hour. And yes, that's exactly what you're doing. Will people PLEASE just quit trying to justify that?

If you're tired of people making sweeping statements and judgments about you, the solution isn't to make sweeping statements and judgments about everyone else. Treat others the way you want to be treated, and in most cases, you will be.



Jaicee said:
teamsilent13 said:

Why do people cry when they live in a political area different than their preferences? Move.

Some of us live on a finite income and cannot afford to move.

A human being is more than the total of his or her own political beliefs.

So make the most out of your situation, since I doubt that the people around you talk about politics 100% of the time.



 
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Well they do have a shitload of windturbines so that's pretty sweet.



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(Sorry, this was an accidental duplicate post! It can be deleted by whoever has the ability to do so.)



TH3-D0S3R said:
 

You see here we go again.

The KKK and Neo's have always been a racist group. I am disgusted by the actions that took place at Charlottesville, and in no way would I advocate that. Quit throwing me into a group I have no interest associating with. I am not a racist pig who sympathizes with KKK members for saying that every act of violence from any extremist group (KKK, BLM, Neo Nazis, ANTIFA, etc.) should be seen exactly the same. I want any group that commits acts of violence specifically against other people of position or race to be seen as a domestic terrorist organization. Every. Single. One.

Your answer is exactly what is the problem with this article: broad generalizations that only try to demonize the other side. I am a Conservative, that doesn't mean I'm a white supremacist who was okay with the car plowing through the innocent crowd.

All I want is for the Riots in Baltimore or Berkley to be treated like they were here in Charlottesville, as acts of violence. Is that a problem?

The fact that you list Black Lives Matter as an "extremist group" and a "terrorist organization" and use the term "antifa" tells me that you are, in fact, connected to the neo-fascist movement on the far right despite your statement.

In any event, when it comes to the comparatively minor violence that some of the the "unite the right" people in Charlottesville were met with, frankly if you're a Nazi Party member, Ku Klux Klan member, or neo-Confederate decked out in the full regalia and you DON'T expect to get pelted with anything (in this case bottles) then you are officially disconnected from life. The truth is that, despite your legal rights, people are still human and tend to find it highly offensive when others implicitly or explicity defend things like the old slave system and the Holocaust. If you're doing that, somebody's going to hit you with something and I'm not going to feel sorry for you because you kinda deserve it. That's NOTHING That's compared to hitting 34 people with your car at 40 miles per hour because you're a fucking Nazi and having the president blame your victims just as much as you because he likes you better! That comparison is an insult to my intelligence and exceedingly offensive. Call me a "snowflake" or whatever for having feelings.

As to your remarks about Baltimore and Berkley, the events in those communities were met with a swift police crackdown (as in like martial law). By contrast, the police just passively stood by and watched while dozens were being mowed down in Charlottesville because this time the perpetrators were white. THAT's the difference in their treatment.



Majin-Tenshinhan said:
 

If you're tired of people making sweeping statements and judgments about you, the solution isn't to make sweeping statements and judgments about everyone else. Treat others the way you want to be treated, and in most cases, you will be.

No, actually I think that, like most of the "contributors" to this thread and the people on the mod team who felt it necessary to change the title of my thread, you're actually just a dishonest person who is simply looking for ways to be offended by every single that I say because you want to get rid of me.

Moderated - Miguel



Jaicee said:
TH3-D0S3R said:

You see here we go again.

The KKK and Neo's have always been a racist group. I am disgusted by the actions that took place at Charlottesville, and in no way would I advocate that. Quit throwing me into a group I have no interest associating with. I am not a racist pig who sympathizes with KKK members for saying that every act of violence from any extremist group (KKK, BLM, Neo Nazis, ANTIFA, etc.) should be seen exactly the same. I want any group that commits acts of violence specifically against other people of position or race to be seen as a domestic terrorist organization. Every. Single. One.

Your answer is exactly what is the problem with this article: broad generalizations that only try to demonize the other side. I am a Conservative, that doesn't mean I'm a white supremacist who was okay with the car plowing through the innocent crowd.

All I want is for the Riots in Baltimore or Berkley to be treated like they were here in Charlottesville, as acts of violence. Is that a problem?

The fact that you list Black Lives Matter as an "extremist group" and a "terrorist organization" and use the term "antifa" tells me that you are, in fact, connected to the neo-fascist movement on the far right despite your statement.
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Isn't that a tiny bit exaggerated? He doesn't seem to know what he's talking about and he has some prejudices, but that doesn't make him a neo-nazi.

Anyways, I agree that it doesn't make sense to call BLM a terrorist organization. I don't like them, I think they're hypocritical and they only make things worse, but saying that they're as bad as the KKK is just ridiculous.
(I'm not familiar with Antifa, so I can't say anything about them.)