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SWORDF1SH on 15 August 2017
Hiku said:
SWORDF1SH said:

Firstly let's be honest, that is never to work and openly posting numbers and hoping NPD doesn't find out isn't going to happen. If Librarian wants to cover his/her tracks then they need to do it at the source. Like pm mods the figures and they post them. If anybody thought that this was going to work and the figures weren't going to find their way to gaf are just kidding themselves. With all due respect to Librarian, that was never going to happen.

But we are going off at a tangent, my point is that ethomaz obviously thinks of the whole situation differently. 

Again though people can say it's a silly move by ethomaz. It's their opinion. I don't have issue with that.

The goal of lowering the chances of NPD contacting him is not only to never get caught. It can also be to delay the inevitable. Getting numbers for 4 months is better than 3 months, etc.
And sure, someone is likely always going to disobey and post the numbers. And that's the one you can point fingers at. In this case it was Ethomaz.
But in those cases if the Gaf mods wanted to, they could clean up the topics from specific numbers.

But I can guarantee you that the data would find its way to gaf as soon as it's posted elsewhere. It would be no different than Librarian posting the numbers directly to gaf because it will find its way to gaf every single month. It's kinda laughable to think it wouldn't. Librarian just needs to change the way they disclose the numbers. 



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SWORDF1SH on 15 August 2017
librarian13579 said:
SWORDF1SH said:

I understand but you need to be a bit more discrete  on how you release the numbers. This was never going to work... ever. 

I know this wouldn't give you any recognition if you passed the data to somebody else but that's the only way it can be done if you truly want to keep heat off yourself. 

I guess I'm just too much of an old-timer, when clearly the modern community over on NeoGAF has changed pretty dramatically for the worse from back in the day.

Back in the day when the community was smaller nobody would have been as stupid as Ethomaz. Now it's "an inevitability" someone will be a dumbass. I guess I'll have to keep that in mind when I don't leak anything directly ever again.

Honestly, if it's your job on the line it's not worth risking at all. But if you can find a way to keep yourself safe and give us data we do appreciate the numbers. I think you're a marked man now though. Probably time for a new account. 



Kerotan on 15 August 2017
Carl2291 said:
Kerotan said:
Ethomaz is a very passionate and friendly gamer. He has a few haters but most like him. And I don't know anyone who ever played with him on psn that didn't enjoy his company. Some people should lay off the hatorade and give the man the respect he deserves.

As many have said, Vgchartz was happy to use leaks from gaf in the past. Can we really expect gaf not to use our leaks now?


There will be no leaks if idiots can't respect the leakers wishes. It's not really that difficult to understand.

Leaker - "Hey guys, there's a real good chance I'm gonna get caught if you post this on GAF, so please don't create any problems for us!"

Idiot - "Oh boy, oh boy! Let me post this on GAF!"

You call ethomaz an idiot but don't question the intelligence of the leaker who actually thought this would'nt make it to gaf.  And it's not like they owe Vgchartz anything.  We've been using their estimates and leaks regarding sales for years. And secondly you don't question his intelligence for thinking these super duper secret agents aren't keeping an eye on Vgchartz but only gaf?  

 

Let's be fair an partial here. This leaker doesn't subtly drop the numbers or message the mods secretly to have them published.  He claims he does it just for our good but I've a feeling the leaker enjoys all the attention too judging by his posts.  Regardless ethomaz is a very intelligent individual. 

iceland said:
Kerotan said:
Ethomaz is a very passionate and friendly gamer. He has a few haters but most like him. And I don't know anyone who ever played with him on psn that didn't enjoy his company. Some people should lay off the hatorade and give the man the respect he deserves.

Anyone else read this in a Trump voice?

I spit out my tea reading this xD

DonFerrari said:
TheBlackNaruto said:
Great PS4 numbers....Switch flat but still very good despite supple issues......I am just worried about the XB1 to be honest......

Not flat... 5 weeks on June against 4 weeks in July so a healthy improvement on weekly sales.

Ka-pi96 said:

IKR? It`s a bit insulting to ol` Donald too, he`s much more trustworthy and honest!

Than iceland or ethomaz?

SWORDF1SH said:

But ethomaz is neither dumb nor a cunt. He's a Brazilian God amongst us mere mortals. We should kiss the ground he treads.

Seriously though, he a very likable guy, I know you have personal issues with him but calling him a dumb cunt is a low blow.

I haven't had any issues with him and even liked the guy, but we know he ruffled quite a lot of feathers.

He may have ruffled a lot of feathers in the past but he still is to this day. Haven't visited vizioneck in a few hours but I'd say he's having a right old laugh. 



librarian13579 on 15 August 2017
Kerotan said:

You call ethomaz an idiot but don't question the intelligence of the leaker who actually thought this would'nt make it to gaf.  And it's not like they owe Vgchartz anything.  We've been using their estimates and leaks regarding sales for years. And secondly you don't question his intelligence for thinking these super duper secret agents aren't keeping an eye on Vgchartz but only gaf?  

Let's be fair an partial here. This leaker doesn't subtly drop the numbers or message the mods secretly to have them published.  He claims he does it just for our good but I've a feeling the leaker enjoys all the attention too judging by his posts.  Regardless ethomaz is a very intelligent individual. 

All right, I think I'm done here.



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Azuren on 15 August 2017

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josh261995 on 15 August 2017

Ps4 software sales are incredible



Carl on 15 August 2017
librarian13579 said:

All right, I think I'm done here.

You'd have a better time literally headbutting a brick wall.



                            

Darc Requiem on 15 August 2017

Not sure why anyone is surprised that a guy that was enough of a dick to get permabanned would continue to be a dick.



newwil7l on 15 August 2017

This is why we can't have nice things. We beg for leaks every month and when we finally get them idiots try to screw it up by chasing the leaker away and arguing with him instead of saying "yeah what ethomaz did was pretty stupid." He couldn't be anymore transparent with the copy paste.



Kerotan on 15 August 2017
Azuren said:
Kero. Stahp.

I didn't leak anything to gaf.  I'm just calling it as it is. If that's the reason the leaks stop then it just proves the leaker wants positive attention. If his sole intention was to drop the numbers he'd do that and stop posting.  

 

And anyway we're probably being double bluffed here.  They know NPD are sick of leaks directly to gaf so the leakers are likely using Vgchartz as a proxy to indirectly get them to gaf. Meanwhile they beg,  please don't leak to gaf,  knowing full well they will get there so they don't look like they ever intended it.  

 

I'd even say triple bluffed.  The NPD guys themselves want this and this whole thing is a smokescreen so they don't want to look bad to the companies paying them.  They don't want these numbers kept secret but have to.  So they use leakers to get the data public while pretending they are trying to stop them.  

 

Anyway that's my opinion and if that is enough to stop the leaker leaking here it just proves something weird is up.  If you are genuine,  just drop the numbers and stop looking for attention.