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roadkillers said:

Put about an hour into Doom and an hour into Horizen. Let me backtrack, I just finished Uncharted 4 and loved it. Then I seen that people said Horizen is up there with Umcharted for PS4 exclusivea and the Doom trailer looked fun. 

 

Why did people like these games? Maybe Horizon atarts out slow and maybe Doom gets better? Doom is so mindless and Horizen is overly dramatic.

 

So you've played the intro of both games and stopped?! 

 

baloofarsan said:
gergroy said:

Horizon is linear?  It's an open world game...

I am about to do the "Proving" so I am only in the begining. Hopefully the game will open up more later.

 

So you as well have only completed the intro, not even the tutorial and complain about it being too linear already?! 

 

Guys, seriously....have you heard of let's plays?! Try watching some before you buy a game! That way you kind of know what you're getting yourself into. I can't...



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
You might judge games "too quickly" but I can't blame you when Horizon has a terrible opening. 

1st Grader's comprehension of the Scarlet Letter
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Extremely dramatic acting
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Dialogue Wheel
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Names like "Alloy" and "Rost" 
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scripted tutorial that acts like the player is a badass
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Alloy narrating every single thing she thinks to the character 
=
Whatever the opposite of viagra is

 

AngryLittleAlchemist said:
VAMatt said:

The devs have been very upfront about how its not intended to feel like Doom 3.  It is intended to feel like Doom 1, which it does. 

No it doesn't. People are too quick to applaud it and say "it plays like Doom 1!" just because it's fast paced. It plays very little like Doom.

pokoko said:
Why do people like Uncharted? The "platforming" makes me feel like I don't even need to be in the room. Does it get better?

Idk if this is a joke, but no it doesnt

 

Boy don't ya seem like a likeable fellow....Which games do you enjoy?! just asking...



EricHiggin said:
I have played all three. Working my way through HZD right now.

UC4 is a great game all around. Best of the series I would say. I really enjoyed it.
Doom is Doom. Mindless "monotone" fast paced death and gore. It was ok, but didn't really do it for me.
HZD slowly builds up. Quite slowly. Its a big map with lots to do. After the first hour I wasn't all that impressed and a little confused. After putting around 50 hours in now, I'm liking it better than UC4.

Each one of these games has a very different style and feel to it. Also, each person has their own tastes. I've played some Witcher 3 and thought it was good, but I think HZD is better. Maybe playing more Witcher would change my mind, maybe not.

After playing both TW3 and HZD for over 50 hours I prefer HZD. TW3 has a much better start yet the story peaks early and the excessive amount of useless loot and ? spots made me feel more like a garbage collector than an adventurer. I had lost pretty much all interest in the story by the end, the game fizzled out for me. HZD had more interesting combat opportunities, better challenges (hunting lodge) plus the story gets really good towards the end. HZD went out with a bang and I'm hoping there will be a sequel.
If you only play 10 hours of each, TW3 >>> HZD, complete the games HZD >>> TW3.



Errorist76 said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
You might judge games "too quickly" but I can't blame you when Horizon has a terrible opening. 

1st Grader's comprehension of the Scarlet Letter
+
Extremely dramatic acting
+
Dialogue Wheel
+
Names like "Alloy" and "Rost" 
+
scripted tutorial that acts like the player is a badass
+
Alloy narrating every single thing she thinks to the character 
=
Whatever the opposite of viagra is

 

AngryLittleAlchemist said:

No it doesn't. People are too quick to applaud it and say "it plays like Doom 1!" just because it's fast paced. It plays very little like Doom.

Idk if this is a joke, but no it doesnt

 

Boy don't ya seem like a likeable fellow....Which games do you enjoy?! just asking...

Good job editing it from "you elisit trash piece of sh*t" to "Boy don't ya seem like a likeable fellow" lol. 

I don't see how any of what I said makes me elitist. Someone said they didn't like the first hour of Doom and Horizon. I replied that you probably judged the games too quickly, but Horizon does have a bad intro. And then someone said that Doom was great because it was like Doom 1. As an avid fan of the original Doom before Doom 2016 came out, I hate seeing this because it's just a misrepresentation of how different the games are. Doom fans say 2016 is like Doom 1 cause it's "fast paced", that was the big contention with Doom 3 - it wasn't fast paced. But both of the games play way differently even with the somewhat similar pacing. The thing about "idk if this is a joke" was in reference to Uncharted 4. Someone asked if Uncharted got better with it's climbing or something like that cause it just felt too easy and like an automated process to them only with a button press(i'm paraphrasing of course). Most uncharted fans have admitted this since the first game, it's not exactly an elitist or hater thing to admit. Though, 4 does the climbing better than other games in the series.

I like ALL of those games from what I've played, especially Doom 2016. Seeing ID software get their franchises back on track is great. 

Anyways since you asked nicely the games I like this generation are : Dark Souls 3, The Witcher 3, Bloodborne, Ni-oh, Breath of the Wild, what I've played of Horizon, Doom 2016, Wolfenstein : The New Order, Playerunknown's Battlegrounds, Overwatch, Rise of the Tomb Raider(idk only Tomb Raider game i've played...I really loved it), Killing Floor 2, Rainbow Six siege, Persona 5 so far, etc. 

I know you weren't being serious when you asked for a list of games, but I don't see how I can be an elitist when I like most new big releases. Criticism doesn't make you an elitist. I definitely criticize games in a crude way, but I don't think the manner of critique is as important as the critique itself. Most of what I said wasn't even a critique, I was answering a question and saying that x game really doesn't play like y game, I literally just criticized Horizon's intro(which is awful).



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Errorist76 said:

 

 

Boy don't ya seem like a likeable fellow....Which games do you enjoy?! just asking...

Good job editing it from "you elisit trash piece of sh*t" to "Boy don't ya seem like a likeable fellow" lol. 

I don't see how any of what I said makes me elitist. Someone said they didn't like the first hour of Doom and Horizon. I replied that you probably judged the games too quickly, but Horizon does have a bad intro. And then someone said that Doom was great because it was like Doom 1. As an avid fan of the original Doom before Doom 2016 came out, I hate seeing this because it's just a misrepresentation of how different the games are. Doom fans say 2016 is like Doom 1 cause it's "fast paced", that was the big contention with Doom 3 - it wasn't fast paced. But both of the games play way differently even with the somewhat similar pacing. The thing about "idk if this is a joke" was in reference to Uncharted 4. Someone asked if Uncharted got better with it's climbing or something like that cause it just felt too easy and like an automated process to them only with a button press(i'm paraphrasing of course). Most uncharted fans have admitted this since the first game, it's not exactly an elitist or hater thing to admit. Though, 4 does the climbing better than other games in the series.

I like ALL of those games from what I've played, especially Doom 2016. Seeing ID software get their franchises back on track is great. 

Anyways since you asked nicely the games I like this generation are : Dark Souls 3, The Witcher 3, Bloodborne, Ni-oh, Breath of the Wild, what I've played of Horizon, Doom 2016, Wolfenstein : The New Order, Playerunknown's Battlegrounds, Overwatch, Rise of the Tomb Raider(idk only Tomb Raider game i've played...I really loved it), Killing Floor 2, Rainbow Six siege, Persona 5 so far, etc. 

I know you weren't being serious when you asked for a list of games, but I don't see how I can be an elitist when I like most new big releases. Criticism doesn't make you an elitist. I definitely criticize games in a crude way, but I don't think the manner of critique is as important as the critique itself. Most of what I said wasn't even a critique, I was answering a question and saying that x game really doesn't play like y game, I literally just criticized Horizon's intro(which is awful)

"Boy don't you come off as an elitist hater" is what I wrote, at least be honest...I was at least cause that's what your posts sounded like, but then I checked on your profile, noticed you're 16 years old and I understood your behaviour and tried to tone it down a bit...no offense.

i was actually being serious when I asked as your three really negative posts in a row combined with your sig made me worry about your state of mind. It fit your nick name just too well. Could've easily been possible you only like playing Bloodborne on highest difficulty..blindfolded of course.

I'm happy now that's not the case.



You're drunk.

Go home.



Errorist76 said:

"Boy don't you come off as an elitist hater" is what I wrote, at least be honest...I was at least cause that's what your posts sounded like, but then I checked on your profile, noticed you're 16 years old and I understood your behaviour and tried to tone it down a bit...no offense.

i was actually being serious when I asked as your three really negative posts in a row combined with your sig made me worry about your state of mind. It fit your nick name just too well. Could've easily been possible you only like playing Bloodborne on highest difficulty..blindfolded of course.

I'm happy now that's not the case.

It has nothing to do with my age, nobody should assume someone is an elitist for critiquing a game in a manner that's crude, especially when I wasn't even that crude all I critiqued was the opening section of Horizon(and a faulty comparison between two games). 

But no I like the games, and it's fine I guess I can see why you were thinking tha way.



I loved DOOM. It sorta feels like a gorey, realistic version of Ratchet & Clank, what with the zany weapons and emphasis on movement and dodging enemy fire.



Both amazing games.