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Machina said:
Cerebralbore101 said:
Switch isn't even part of the graph on the main page yet.

And nor will it until there's an industry-wide consensus as to what generation it fits into (and if it's the start of a new one then we'll be waiting for at least one competitor to also launch so that we can introduce a meaningful new market share graph).

It's on the weekly chart, which is what matters for now.

So basically never as industry dosen't care about generations anymore, especially Nintendo.  But since you guys care about it so much, how about "1st generation of hybrid consoles" ... problem solved.



It's kinda sad to think but by the time the Switch appears on the front page charts it will actually have outsold the WiiU in global sales



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SpokenTruth said:
Machina said:

 

These posts are rather good illustrations of why I’ve been reluctant to push Brett to add Switch to the chart on the front page up to now. On the one hand everyone says it’s ridiculous that an incredibly popular new system is going unrepresented (agreed), on the other because it’s not easily categorised in terms of generation and market it means that no matter how we choose to categorise it people will complain. TheDX says 'lol, no one gives a shit about generations anymore', well apparently they do...

It's better to have Switch and piss off a few than to not show Switch and piss off everyone.

Very much this, at this stage having the WiiU on there makes the front page of the site look like it was abandoned in regards to keeping up with numbers, I mean it might as well list sales figures for the PS2 would be more relevant in the second half of 2017



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Ganoncrotch said:
SpokenTruth said:

It's better to have Switch and piss off a few than to not show Switch and piss off everyone.

Very much this, at this stage having the WiiU on there makes the front page of the site look like it was abandoned in regards to keeping up with numbers, I mean it might as well list sales figures for the PS2 would be more relevant in the second half of 2017

This doesn't make sense.  Last Gen the Wii U wasn't shown until the PS4 and Xbox One appeared to have something to compare it to.  The main issue is how do you account for market share using their current method.  Its not a straight answer and we can't change years of calculating one way on someone's feeling without a practical solution.  The main problem is what do you do with Wii U?



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CosmicSex said:
Ganoncrotch said:

Very much this, at this stage having the WiiU on there makes the front page of the site look like it was abandoned in regards to keeping up with numbers, I mean it might as well list sales figures for the PS2 would be more relevant in the second half of 2017

This doesn't make sense.  Last Gen the Wii U wasn't shown until the PS4 and Xbox One appeared to have something to compare it to.  The main issue is how do you account for market share using their current method.  Its not a straight answer and we can't change years of calculating one way on someone's feeling without a practical solution.  The main problem is what do you do with Wii U?

You do what Nintendo did with the WiiU, bin it.

The % between the systems makes 0 real world impact when you are talking about consoles which launched in the period between 2012 and march of this year anyway, what honest value is there in knowing that the WiiU sold 1/6th the number of consoles which the PS4 currently has, the WiiU for the most part is a dust collecting machine who's online services are in line to start getting turned off in the coming months, it has no future and the number of consoles it sold during the last 5 years is no indication of what actually share of the 2017 Market that console has.



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trunkswd said:
About the hardware I am waiting on Brett to make adjustments to the PS4 figures before continuing. I've also just emailed him about the Switch, 3DS and Wii U adjustments. Once those are complete I will catch up with the hardware figures.

Out of interest, what's the haps with the numbers on those three (I haven't been following lately). Over/undertracked?



Ganoncrotch said:
It's kinda sad to think but by the time the Switch appears on the front page charts it will actually have outsold the WiiU in global sales

So you're comfortable with saying the charts are going to have the Switch in them by February of 2018? Too soon! :P



trunkswd said:

These are the adjustments that I've sent over to Brett. If I could do them myself I would, but have no way of doing that. 

PS4: Up 600K

Switch: Down 150K

3DS: Up 1.9 Million

 

Wii U: Down 390K

Shouldn't the XOne be adjusted too? As of the end of May, it's 170k overtracked in the US when compared with NPD:

XB1          
NPD 2016 NPD '16 Total NPD 2017 NPD '17 Total VGC 2017 VGC '17 Total
131,145 131,145 157,545 157,545 160,641 160,641
248,213 379,358 215,418 372,963 247,919 408,560
241,526 620,884 243,514 616,477 279,049 687,609
167,631 788,515 109,950 726,427 172,986 860,595
107,083 895,598 109,130 835,557 144,758 1,005,353
211,888 1,107,486 153,389 988,946    
171,123 1,278,609        
274,783 1,553,392        
332,829 1,886,221        
329,014 2,215,235        
1,006,784 3,222,019        
1,511,013 4,733,032      


Switch should be included on the front-page. Who cares about generations. Releases of systems are now so scattered, which, IMO, makes it difficult to classify something as generation x or y. But, that is just my opinion.



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