Why do you think it didn't do too hot?

Are we already forgetting Pokopia?

*Sigh* Let me repeat what I said.

"As for consumers waiting for a hyped title four to five years, that is a pure strawman argument. I believe the latest release date we know about is now Yoshi, which is releasing in May. Nobody is asking for them to reveal everything they have coming out for the next five years, but wanting to know what will be released in the next 4-6 months does not seem unreasonable."

There is no need to read "every aspect which is being discussed" because I was addressing one particular argument, or if you prefer one particular point. I clearly identified the exact point I was referring to, but apprently you need something like the yellow lines in the FF7 remake to follow a conversation. 

The point I'm addressing here, is you arguing against Nintendo announcing games 4 to 5 years out. Since nobody suggested they should do that, that is a strawman argument. Full stop. I know it's hard to comprehend this, but not every point someone makes is addressing the entirety of a thread. It's complex, I know. Take an asprin if you need one.

So to summarize;

Did you argue against Nintendo announcing games years in advance? Yes.

Did anyone suggest they should? No.

Congrats, you just gave birth to a beautiful little strawman. No need for further discussion on this. I wish you and your little bundle of straw all the happiness in the world.

As for moving the goalposts, lets look at the initial post in this chain.

I highlighted the key parts so the slower horses could cross the finish line. This is what we are discussing here. That's the goalpost. It's there in big bold letters.

Pokopia is proving... what exactly? They announced Pokopia six months ago and gave the release date in November, four months ago. Literally the time frame I suggested is reasonable. They were still able to market their other games, and Pokopia was able to gain hype and buzz. I'm not sure what point you were trying to prove here, but you probably aren't sure either at this point. 

It's more you who require yellow lines as the part about games releasing far from when announced is in regards to what happens when they go down the route of satiating people's addiction to hype I've even explained that to you clearly in a follow up post it's not rocket science and the fact that you still think I claimed you said that is an issue of your own comprehension which you still obsess over even after it's been explained so no the is no strawman, it just highlights where it all leads as my reply also factors in the core context of of the debate which is hype addiction.

The reason you bought the Switch 2 is your own prerogative it's not a universal foundation in how things should and will be as you may have bought the platform for first party sure a lot of people will it still however doesn't discount the value of third party titles especially as for the first time in a long while we have release parity and at a quality that is comparable to other versions. This positions Switch 2 as a platform that can be someone's main platform without the requirement of another platform in order to play the majority of games, Requiem's implied performance showing these titles when with parity are just as important as a first party release for a significant amount of consumers especially many of the newer generation of gamers who came onboard with the Switch. Your argument also ignores the portable aspect which is a key thing for many.

To put it simply you're only looking at first party titles many consumers are seeing a platform that will have Pokopia and still allow them to play RE9, Rebirth, CB2077 etc...

"which you still obsess over even after it's been explained so no the is no strawman" Poetry by Wyrdness XD


Amusing typo aside, yes it's a strawman argument. Maybe Chatgpt can explain it to you.

Short answer: Probably yes — the person has a reasonable point that a strawman is being used, though it’s a mild one rather than a blatant distortion.

Let’s break down the argument structure.

1. What the first person is arguing

The earlier poster says consumers shouldn’t have to:

“wait for a hyped title for four to five years.”

This is used to defend the current communication/marketing strategy of Nintendo—implying that the alternative to the current approach would be long droughts where fans wait years for major announcements.

2. What the critic says people actually want

The reply argues that nobody is asking for that. Instead they say people just want:

“to know what will be released in the next 4–6 months.”

That’s a much weaker and more reasonable demand than waiting for multi-year hype cycles.

3. Why that can qualify as a strawman

A strawman argument happens when someone:

1. Replaces an opponent’s position with a more extreme or unreasonable version, and

2. Argues against that exaggerated version instead of the real one.

Here the alleged distortion is:

If the community discussion was mostly about near-term visibility, then reframing it as “people want 4–5 year hype waits” is indeed misrepresenting the demand, which fits the strawman pattern.

Anyways,

I literally just showed you in big bold letters that we were responding to a post addressing Nintendo's first party lineup. Instead of acknowledging that is indeed what we were discussing and that I have not moved the goalpost... you ignored it. Like you ignored the clear explanation of what a strawman is. And when I responded to your point about Pokopia "proving it hard" that was ignored too.

If someone can't address what is being said then there's really no point in continuing. You're either incapable of comprehension, incapable of honesty, or both. Feel free to go back and actually respond to my last post if you want. Probably not going to respond either way. I find it amusing watching people flail about rather than addressing when they have obviously and demonstrably been proven wrong, but I'm bored now.

To be clear, the overall lineup is not weak at all, it's actually quite strong due to third party support being better than it has been on Nintendo in over twenty years.

Just the next few months will see the likes of Pragmata, Indiana Jones, FF7 Rebirth, 007 First Light, Fatal Frame 2, Monster Hunter Stories 3, South of Midnight, High on Life 2, Tales of Arise, etc. 

It's more the first party lineup that's a bit weak; Mario Wonder and Tomodachi Life are Switch 1 games, while Yoshi and Fire Emblem are relatively minor franchises. Splatoon Raiders is the only real system seller, and that doesn't even have a release year and may not arrive in 2026.

Don't misunderstand me, this isn't a "Nintendo is doomed" post, the system just got Pokopia and third parties are showing up in force, so they're not in imminent danger, it's just that a lot of people buy Nintendo systems for the big first party tentpoles, and those are currently MIA, so if this refusal to share their plans continues through the coming months, hardware sales might start to slow.