Wyrdness said:
Except the context and point of the argument is people being addicted to hype rather than a lack of games in which the inevitable result of that are games announced well before they're ready for release in order to satisfy such desire for it so no it's very much not a strawman I'm guessing you didn't read every aspect of what's being discussed. The scope of the argument is even laid out in the screenshotted post which highlights it's not just first party but how goalposts are moved due to an addiction to hype, this wasn't changed by me you just took one particular angle and ironically you just proved the point in the screenshot in particular the part about "Not Nintendo Hype" when trying to say third party don't count. The first party part of the debate in the screened post stems from people wanting hype from a huge first party title to fuel their hype addiction that's the point it was never about only first party counts. What you're saying is proving his argument, we know about the next two and a half months of releases yet you want to look further while dismissing third party releases which indicates you just want to know for the sake of knowing a sign of the hype addiction being highlighted or your interest is only in a set particular game or type of games at which point no approach will ever suit you only certain calendar years will suit you. Nintendo's current approach in focusing more on the immediate release is better marketing to reach more consumers straight away and Pokopia is proving this hard. |
*Sigh* Let me repeat what I said.
"As for consumers waiting for a hyped title four to five years, that is a pure strawman argument. I believe the latest release date we know about is now Yoshi, which is releasing in May. Nobody is asking for them to reveal everything they have coming out for the next five years, but wanting to know what will be released in the next 4-6 months does not seem unreasonable."
There is no need to read "every aspect which is being discussed" because I was addressing one particular argument, or if you prefer one particular point. I clearly identified the exact point I was referring to, but apprently you need something like the yellow lines in the FF7 remake to follow a conversation.
The point I'm addressing here, is you arguing against Nintendo announcing games 4 to 5 years out. Since nobody suggested they should do that, that is a strawman argument. Full stop. I know it's hard to comprehend this, but not every point someone makes is addressing the entirety of a thread. It's complex, I know. Take an asprin if you need one.
So to summarize;
Did you argue against Nintendo announcing games years in advance? Yes.
Did anyone suggest they should? No.
Congrats, you just gave birth to a beautiful little strawman. No need for further discussion on this. I wish you and your little bundle of straw all the happiness in the world.
As for moving the goalposts, lets look at the initial post in this chain.
| curl-6 said: While I am enjoying my Switch 2 thanks to games like RE Requiem and FF7 Remake, the current first party outlook is pretty weak, so I don't blame those who are first party focused for feeling antsy. When you've just asked people to drop $450 for a shiny new console, it's not unreasonable to expect some indication of what big Nintendo games and coming and when. Also, commercially speaking, the likes of Tomodachi Life or the Mario Wonder port aren't system sellers, so if Nintendo wants to keep the Switch 2's sales pace they're going to have to try harder to get people excited. |
I highlighted the key parts so the slower horses could cross the finish line. This is what we are discussing here. That's the goalpost. It's there in big bold letters.
Pokopia is proving... what exactly? They announced Pokopia six months ago and gave the release date in November, four months ago. Literally the time frame I suggested is reasonable. They were still able to market their other games, and Pokopia was able to gain hype and buzz. I'm not sure what point you were trying to prove here, but you probably aren't sure either at this point.
